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Well I really would name my pet after a Duke character but the only pet I have for now is my orange cat named OJ.
If I had an orange cat I'd name him 'General'. Now if only I could breed them like this:
Don't worry, cat lovers - this has been Photoshopped (you can tell by the pixels)
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Anyone know where the pics of the ranch are (I'm new here)?
The ranches are mentioned in various threads, although I'm not sure about pictures. Here's some Google Maps links to the main ones:
Lyons Ranch - as mentioned by CDoherty above.
Disney's Golden Oak Ranch - also near Santa Clarita.
Lake Sherwood - now re-landscaped as the Sherwood Country Club. Many of the public roads in this area were also used.
Newhall Ranch - now includes the Indian Dunes location just to the north. The airfield used in several episodes was the Indian Dunes Airport (now a plowed field), and the record-breaking Styx River jump also took place here. The Six Flags Magic Mountain amusement park, used in 'Lulu's Gone Away' (season 6 episode 1), is just to the east. There's pictures of that in the Hazzard Square thread.
Just for completeness, the Burbank Studios are here.
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My first choice was interrobang, because it's a great word. Then I pictured the puzzled looks as people said "you what‽".
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I was under the impression that it was an existing bar that the production team just added the gas pumps in front (which have never really made since to me; unless they would've explained the Boar's Nest as an old gas station. Speaking of; I don't ever recall anyone getting gas from those pumps. And they disappear in later seasons!)
I'm not sure about the history of the building before Dukes, maybe Brian or one of the other members can help you out. On the gas pumps, I can't speak for the US, but here in Ireland it's not uncommon to see gas pumps outside rural pubs, although they're not all still in use and are starting to disappear - here's one not far from where I live. Some small villages have a pub, small grocery shop and gas pumps all in one business. My favorite combination (which I've seen more than once) is pub, liquor store and funeral parlor
.Considering all the driving, and the poor gas mileage they must have got, it's a wonder that you didn't see more people constantly filling their cars.
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The episode is 'Miz Tisdale on the Lam' (season 4, episode 18). The outside of the store is visible in several episodes, but this is the only time we see the inside. The interior of the barber shop next door is seen a few times.
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As Brian said, many of the answers can be found in the Hazzard Square thread. I think Brian also covered the Georgia episodes, so my response relates to the California episodes.
To answer the last one first, the Duke Farm moved around about every other season, depending on which ranch they were using for filming. This means that the surrounding area looks very different thoughout the series. There was also a sound stage set of the exterior of the farm. I think all the interior shots of the farm were sets.
Moving to Hazzard Square, most of the buildings had interiors that were used for filming. Thanks to research by Mark B we know that the interior of Cooter's was also used in the movies 'The Music Man' and 'The Shootist'.
I'm guessing that the sound stages allowed longer filming hours, but it's quite clear that some exterior shots were filmed at night and lit to look like daytime.
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Here's a song with a country twang that's named after a US river, so obviously the band is Dutch.
Apparently this was a big hit across Europe in 1975, although it wasn't until late 1976 that it spent four weeks at #1 in the UK charts. When I heard it at the weekend it was probably for the first time in over 30 years. Because of this huge gap I was immediately transported back to the '70s - that hard-to-imagine time before Dukes existed
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Thanks for the link CD. This episode has managed to elude me until now. I even borrowed several seasons of Family Guy on DVD from a friend of mine, and this disc was scratched and unwatchable
. There's more than just a passing reference to Dukes, and they even got Waylon for one of his last appearances. I also liked the Jeff Foxworthy joke (it wasn't actually Jeff). Before I joined HNet I wouldn't have known who he was.If anyone is unfamiliar with Family Guy's sense of humor, be warned. The DVDs carry a '15' age certificate over here.
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If you want to read more about Jerry Rushing's 'Traveler', there's a whole chapter about it in the book The Real Duke of Hazzard: The Jerry Rushing Story. It was bought for just $150 from an auction after it had been confiscated from another moonshiner. It already had upgraded rear suspension and the lower back seat had been removed to allow more space. Jerry's mechanic friend Buck tweaked the stock HEMI to give the car a top speed of over 170 mph. He also added a couple of toggle switches to the dash. The first would turn off all the rear lights, including the reverse lights, so he could back into a building without being seen. The second just cut the brake lights. When the revenuers were chasing him on a twisty road he would brake normally on the first few bends to get the chaser to follow his braking pattern. He'd then flick the switch and brake hard around a sharp bend - the revenuer would realise too late and crash off the road.
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The car "Traveler" in the movie "Moonrunners" was a stock car owned by the Hagg cousins. It was a 1955 Chevy. It was kept to the racetrack and wasn't used in any of their highway antics.
Thanks for the reminder Brian. As I said, it's been a while since I watched it. It was hard to get a grab of the '55 Chevy because it's only seen at night or in a dark shed. The car I remembered was the one that Beth Ann Eubanks stole from her step-daddy (the Mississippi sheriff). Uncle Jesse had to make the 'shine run in this car because Grady got things "bass ackwards" and forgot his role in the scheme.
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I was hoping someone would post in this thread, because I didn't want to post out-of-turn. We've had some New Order tracks recently, but I was listening to their earlier incarnation this evening.
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Here's a song from E, the lead singer of Eels from one of his early '90s solo albums:
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In episode 2 -- Daisy's Song -- the cousin's go to talk to Cooter. He's working on a white car that looks A LOT like a Chrysler 300(?) from the mid-late '50's. Now, in what little I know -- that was the car that Jerry Rushing used and the car that was in "Moonrunners" -- the 1975 picture penned by Gy Waldron, the Dukes creator. So, the question is: Was that the actual "Traveller" from the movie?
Both cars are white 1958 models. Jerry Rushing's 'Traveler' was a 1958 Chrysler 300D similar to the one below:
The car you mention in 'Daisy's Song' was a 1958 Oldsmobile Super 88:
Here's what they look like in better condition:
I haven't seen 'Moonrunners' for a while, but I thought the main car was a 1971 Chevy Bel Air. I don't recall 'Traveler' appearing in any episode of Dukes, but Jerry Rushing himself appeared as Ace Parker in 'Repo Men'.
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Not just a Simpsons reference, but also a song by Boss Hog (the name is biker slang, and not a Dukes reference).
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Thanks for the birthday wishes y'all. I thought one or two people might remember, but I wasn't expecting my own thread - I'm overwhelmed.
I checked Wikipedia and IMDb and I share my birthday with an disparate group. Here's a few:
Karl Benz, Jenna & Barbara Bush, Percy Sledge, John F. Kennedy Jr., Joe DiMaggio, Eddie "Crabman" Steeples and Christina Applegate.
I love you like a brother....well, maybe not that much.I love you like a third cousin's uncle, twice removed from my wife's half-sister's divorced step father's neighbor's grandson's twice removed brother-in-law's brother from another mother's 12 year old bassett hound's (the one that only has three legs) vetrenarian's step-son.
I've had to be removed more than twice, and I'm sure it won't be the last time
.So, Hoss you're still 21 right?.I'm not sure I can still get away with 21. Maybe this year I'll be 25
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I agree with Alex. If I remember correctly, it places Hazzard somewhere in Puerto Rico!.
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Backlot buildings get altered for different productions and many times the blueprints on file don't get updated for years- sometimes decades at a time.
Still on 'Welcome Back, Bo 'n' Luke', as Boss starts to tear down Cooter's signage he has a table full of blueprints, but none are shown any closer than here. I wonder if they were the blueprints for Cooter's.
When the 'Office' sign is removed you can see that the outline of the license plates is still visible underneath (they were moved to beside the door a couple of seasons back when the 'Hazzard Garage' sign was lowered). This is also the best look inside the office that we get. I think the support beam is just visible above the center of the knocked-down door.
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Ha! Guess what I found??
Character name Jacey Squires from 'The Music Man'.
A musical number in front of Cooters!!!
And one inside!!
Nice videos Mark, I missed these when I posted '76 Trombones' from 'The Music Man' in the Hazzard Square thread the other week. The place looks so different, and there's an extra partition wall in the back right corner of Cooter's/Squires'. The design of the Rhuebottom's building is pretty much as it appeared in 'The Shootist" - the store front must have been added in the late '70s, which explains why it looks so clean in 'Luke's Love Story'.
That is amazing! Needless to say, I haven't come across this ep yet ...The weird differences in the office are the strangest part- almost like they put the wrong drawings on that wall.
I think I figured out what they did with the office. They took the plan for three sides (including the door and window on the unseen side that's visible in 'The Shootist') and wrapped them around two sides of the model.
Seeing as you haven't got this far yet, here's a few more pictures of the models. I'd say they're not far off your 1:64 model above. Cooter's is the model nearest to Boss.
I've stitched this together from three grabs. It shows most of Boss's planned stores. As you can see, the model style is completely different - no doubt because there were no blueprints for these.
Here's a close-up of the last of the new stores and one of the original houses.
Finally, here's the police station/county building.
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I was watching 'Welcome Back, Bo 'n' Luke' earlier when I realized that Boss Hogg beat you to making a scale model of Cooter's. Judging by this close-up, it's not terribly accurate. The overall shape is right but there's an extra window on the office next to a very narrow door, and the center window has shrunk and acquired shutters. Additionally, there's small writing on many of the walls. It looks like it says "Lacey Squires Proprietor" above the "Service" sign, but the rest is unreadable.
This section of the model gets replaced by Boss's colorful fast food outlets. The only other building we get to see in detail is the police station/county building when Boss rests on it to sign a check at the end of the episode.
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Great work Alex. I know from experience that the Jeep eagle isn't easy to get right.
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While we're on car commercials, the twist at the end of this current Renault advert amuses me:
The girl is French actress/model Margaux Van Den Plas, so I guess that explains the dodgy English dialog dubbing.
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Here's the raised General from 'Arrest Jesse Duke', and the front of the General from the scene you mentioned in 'Comrade Duke'. In the first one the silvery gray marks are outside the narrow pushbar. In the second they are inside the wider pushbar design. From a quick Google search it appears that the pushbars in the show were usually welded directly to the front bumper (most of the time they didn't need any real strength). Apparently this isn't recommended for people building replicas - maybe someone who owns a replica can comment on this. I'm guessing that the chrome finish on the bumper had been destroyed by having a different sized pushbar welded to it, and the silvery gray patches are a 'quick fix' paint job to cover this up.
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It sounds more like that sort of thing that would happen to Rosco
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Thanks Alex. The original Boar's Nest is at that address in Georgia. You can check it out on Google Maps. Last time I checked, it was a church - there's a fairly recent picture below. I really chose to concentrate this thread on the California filming locations because HazzardNet member Wekke already has a great webpage about the Georgia locations used in the first five episodes. It includes 'then and now' pictures from his visit there. Unfortunately the page seems to be down at the moment (it was working last week) - I will post a link if it becomes available again. I can post Google Maps links to a few of the other Georgia locations if anyone wants them.
Sorrell on 12 O'Clock High
in Sorrell Booke/Boss Hogg
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I haven't found the full episode yet, but