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I finally remembered to listen to the interview tonight - it was well worth it. Thanks for the link.

That looks like the same bad wig on Uncle Jesse's stand-in that appeared in 'Mason Dixon's Girls' : Well done for making it all the way through the Hazzard Square thread . I'm not sure of all of the changeovers (CDoherty probably knows them better than me). You seem to have it mostly right. Here's a rough guide: Season 1, episodes 1-5 were filmed in and around Covington and Conyers, Georgia, with a trip to Atlanta in 'Daisy's Song'. Season 1, episodes 6 onward used Warner Brothers' back lot, Burbank for Hazzard Square and some other locations. Season 1, episodes 6-13, and season 2 used Disney's Golden Oak Ranch and surrounding roads for Boar's Nest/Duke Farm and some locations, as well as the roads around Lake Sherwood. Season 3 and 4 were mainly filmed at Lake Sherwood on the ranch (Boar's Nest and Duke Farm moved there) and the surrounding roads. Season 5, 6 and 7 were mainly filmed at Valencia Oaks Movie Ranch. I think there was some cross-over between Lake Sherwood and Valencia Oaks. Other locations around (what is now) Santa Clarita, Oxnard, Indian Dunes etc. were also used. I have pretty much all the screengrabs/maps I need to cover the Lake Sherwood area, it's just a question of picking a starting point and writing all the text to go with the pictures.

I came to the same conclusion myself. It looks like the back of the Boar's Nest when they were filming near Lake Sherwood. I think the paint shop in a later episode also uses the back of the Boar's Nest ('The Law and Jesse Duke'?). I had planned to cover the Lake Sherwood area in the Hazzard Square thread, but it's such a big subject it may deserve a thread of its own.

It looks like the aftermath of Cletus and Wilbur driving through the sawmill in 'The Legacy'.

Sarcastic, me . If NASCAR had published an article about their new car with the differences highlighted, then fair enough. It was the way they made their front page story look like some major breakthrough that amused me. With regards to the Kenseth decision, that sounds like a fairer punishment. I wish NASCAR could get it right in the first place instead of dragging in on for two or three weeks after the event. I wonder if the engine supplier will pick up the fines after they apologized for supplying the underweight rod. BTW. Kenseth will now receive credit for the win at Kansas toward eligibility for a wild-card position in the Chase for the Sprint Cup.

I think that the reduced penalties are more appropriate, although some of the comments I've read seem to question whether the two race suspension should include the All-Star race. What do you think, Garrett? It's interesting that the comments section of NASCAR's website still isn't working. While I was on NASCAR.com earlier, I spotted the front page story Space age for the race age. The story is about NASCAR using carbon fiber for the hoods and deck lids on their new cars as if it's some kind of new wonder material. The "Space Age" is generally acknowledged to have started in 1957, and carbon fiber came along a year later. The first F1 car to have a chassis made from carbon fiber was in 1981. Well done NASCAR - your new cars are only about 30 years behind cutting edge technology .

Hi Roth, welcome to HNet. You've made it to the right place . Do you watch Dukes in English, or is it dubbed into Dutch?

Well done for spotting the Duke Farm, Roth, it's only on-screen for a few seconds. It's very hard to spot locations in the movie as most of the scenes are at night. I'm sure that the "Autohenge" picture (the one with the stacked buses) shows the Boar's Nest covered with even more hubcaps than usual. When Chevy and Demi are running away, the explosion briefly illuminates the rocks behind it. I agree that I saw no sign of the building exploding, just some barrels. The long shots of the bridge and the mansion clearly use mattes to make the location seem more remote and barren. The road they drive along just before they reach the mansion for the first time looks familiar from Dukes (especially with an old Dodge Monaco on it).

Io non so parlare italiano. (except when I cheat with Google Translate )

Hi Melissa, welcome to HNet. I believe you guys just call the show 'Hazzard', but your theme music is really catchy ('La Ballata di Bo e Luke'). I think that i1976 is the only Italian member who's on here regularly, but there may be others.

You really can learn something new every day . Well spotted Roth and welcome to HNet.

I have to say that I'm a little disappointed with 13th. Ricky started the race poorly, and was down in 41st place for a while, but he came back for some strong top ten running. It's a shame that he got the pitlane speeding penalty, but he came back well. I haven't always been a fan of restrictor plate racing, even 'Dega, with its two-by-two format (see my comments from last year). The aerodynamic changes they've made this year made for much better racing, and I was on the edge of my seat for virtually the whole time after the restart following the rain delay - just my opinion as Garrett would say . Just to prove my earlier post wrong, I took this screengrab after the restart; Little did I realize that I'd be posting this one at the end: I think my buttermilk's going to accompanied by a large slice of humble pie tonight .

I thought about, but it's not such a rarity. I wish I'd moved quicker when Ricky was leading . It may be an old joke, but I liked it when the commentator (sorry, not sure which one) described Ricky and Danica's relationship as "speed dating" .

It doesn't happen often, so I thought Roger might like the moment captured for posterity .

Boss handed over $10,000 for $100,000 of stolen TV sets in 'Road Pirates' (which he never received). There was "a whole truckload of recreation equipment" in 'Return of the Ridge Raiders', but it didn't go into detail - there could have been a TV in there.

I missed the first eight laps, but I don't think I missed much action. After moaning about the paint scheme changes yesterday, I think Jeff Gordon's car is easier to spot than usual. Scott Speed's car looks almost all red from the side - coupled with his number, it's getting close to Lightning McQueen .

Robby and co. watch a NASCAR race on TV in 'Cale Yarborough Comes to Hazzard', but he's in hospital at the time.

Do you remember how confused Uncle Jesse looked when he was given a food processor in 'Welcome Back, Bo 'n' Luke'? I don't think the Dukes were into gadgets and modern technology.

I bet Roger would be wondering what had happened to David Ragan too . David Ragan's car is already shown on that page - what they forgot to say was that Danica's driving the #34 in the Nationwide race (if you look carefully there are differences between the car outlines). I only discovered the truth when I found this page: Danica Patrick to run in Talladega Nationwide race

I'm not sure why that didn't work for you. It shows up for me on IE, Firefox and Chrome (both in my post and the quoted bit of your reply). Here's a link to the NASCAR page where I found it, along with a few of the other cars: Paint scheme preview: Talladega

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't remember the Dukes having a TV set. I've looked through my screengrabs, and there isn't one visible in any of the Duke Farm interior shots that I have.

You cut that close, Garrett - I was about half and hour away from posting the starting lineup myself . It looks like several of the cars will have quite different paint schemes for tomorrow's race. Here's Jeff Gordon's: Personally, I wish they wouldn't change them so much and so often, but I guess the teams are more likely to listen to their sponsors than me .

It's probably about time I added the cars from the second TV movie. I didn't spot any Hazzard patrol cars in 'Hazzard in Hollywood' as most of the action takes place in ... wait for it ... Hollywood. We're now under Enos's jurisdiction, and the man himself drives an unmarked Chevrolet Caprice. The skirted rear wheel wells mean that it must be a 1991/92 model. We never get a good look at the black and whites at the liquor store hold-up. In reality, they're only likely to be Chevy Caprices or Ford Crown Vics, and the door handles/locks on the visible one are wrong for a Crown Vic. Combined with the open rear wheel well, this would seem to narrow it down to a 1993 or later Caprice. The lightbars look like the familiar AeroDynic ones we're used to. During the chase toward the end, the General drives through several movie sets. One of the movies being filmed involves these two patrol cars. The front end of the one on right is clearly a Chevy Caprice, but we don't get to see any more of it. My guess would be that they reused one of the liquor store hold-up cars, which would make it a '93 or later model. Here's a better view of the patrol car on the left. The lights identify it as a 1993 or later Ford Crown Vic. I think that concludes the list of patrol cars that appeared in the TV series and TV movies, unless anyone remembers one I've missed.

It depends whether you think they were deliberately breaking the rules, or just testing the boundaries. Taken from the British TV show 'QI', here's three examples of people spotting loopholes in the rules and exploiting them. The rules were changed later, but at the time these were all legal: 1) In 1771 cricketer Thomas White invented a bat that was wider than the wicket. He noticed that there were no rules defining how big a bat could be, so he turned up with a huge one in a match between Chertsey and Hambledon which today would be Surrey v Hampshire. In 1774 a new law was brought in limiting the width of cricket bats to 4.5 inches. 2) Other sportsmen have also exploited the rules. One was American footballer Lester Hayes, who played for the Oakland Raiders. He was defensive player of the year during the late 1970s, but this was due to the fact he covered his hands and gloves in an adhesive called Stickum. Hayes said: "Without Stickum I couldn't catch a cold in Antarctica." 3) A further example of actual sporting cheating with regards to exploiting the rules came from the 1951 St Louis Browns baseball team, who brought in a 3'7" tall player called Eddie Gaedel out to bat. He crouched over the plate, and thus the strike zone the pitcher had to hit was one-and-a-half inches high. The pitcher could not get anywhere near it so he pitched four balls, after which he walked to first base and was subbed. As I said previously, I'm used to F1 where they have very well defined rules, but also very clever designers who try to read between the lines. Do you think the punishment is right, or should it increased/decreased? Just because I'm always right, I don't want to discourage you from posting your opinions .

So that's what NASCAR are doing - trying to prevent competition - now it all makes sense . You want my opinion? I think NASCAR have shot themselves in the foot over this one. I've had a really hard time just finding out exactly what Penske did wrong (most sources just list the obscure code numbers of the rules they're supposed to have broken). To me it looks like the Penske team thought they'd found a loophole or gray area in the rules and chanced their arm a little. NASCAR, wanting to assert their authority, have come down hard with a disproportionate penalty (my view and the view of the vast majority of posts I've read online). They've now put themselves in a no-win situation: if the penalty sticks, a lot of people will think they overreacted (as usual, conspiracy theories abound!); if the penalty get reduced, every future penalty will be open to question and challenge. All this while they're turning a blind eye to drivers physically attacking each other. I'm not denying that Penske broke the rules, or saying they shouldn't be punished, just that the penalty was too much. How about a simple rule: turn up with an illegal car and you don't get to race that weekend. That way it's all over and done with and people can move on to the next race. If a car is found to be illegal after the race, wipe any points scored that weekend. Maybe you'll consider my views biased. In F1 it's usual for teams to innovate and constantly bring new parts to races. It's quite often the other teams that challenge the legality of new parts, and then it's up to the governing body to make a ruling. You have to remember that the illegal Penske cars didn't even race - it's not like they won a load of races before the infringements were discovered. However much you love NASCAR, you have to accept that they're not always right. As far as the NASCAR website goes, I still find it much harder to navigate than the old one (even though it works fine in Firefox). One time when I visited last week there was only one lead story, but it still kept scrolling across the screen. Last year I could go to the homepage on race day and instantly see a weather report and any other late-breaking news along with a countdown to the start. There were clear links to the lap-by-lap feed and the leaderboard, and everything used less space so I could get more drivers/info on-screen at once. They're certainly not the only people who've ruined their website with an "improvement". Photobucket is now far less usable than it used to be, and they keep screwing it up in new ways. Failblog had a major makeover last year, and have now made subsequent changes to make it nearly as good as it used to be! We must congratulate Mufn for upgrading HNet without taking a step backwards.