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This is why Tony Stewart is the MAN in NASCAR. Love him or hate him, he does care. Got this from insiderracingnews.com . A great article by Kim Roberson January 20, 2007 By Kim Roberson Kim Roberson This week has been a great week for the car fans out there. Not only did we wrap up Sprint Cup testing at Daytona, but we have also been treated to the annual Barrett-Jackson car auction in Scottsdale, Arizona. I became hooked on watching the auction a few years ago when I was flipping through the channels while bored in the off-season. I have never been much of a car person per se, however I am the granddaughter of a former GM accountant, and thus have always appreciated the looks of nice cars; if not what makes them go. Over the years, I have learned to tell the difference between a Road Runner, a GTO Judge, a ‘Cuda, and a Nomad. There are your usual Dodges, Chevys, and Fords…along with Bentleys, Buicks, De Sotos, Packards, and Shelbys. In the three years I have been watching the auction; I have seen a lot of vehicles go for a whole lot of money. In 2005, a 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 concept car was sold for $3 Million. In 2006, a 1950 Futureliner tour bus sold for $4 million. Last year, a 1966 Shelby Cobra that was actually Carroll Shelby’s personal vehicle sold for $5 million. A recreation of the original Batmobile went for $185,000; the truck from the Beverly Hillbillies went for $125,000. A stagecoach went for $40,000. Someone took home the MonkeeMobile, another picked up the Robosaurus. The 1966 Ford Thunderbird convertible from “Thelma and Louise’ was on the block last night, along with William Shatner's 1995 Harley Davidson motorcycle, Patrick Dempsey’s 2005 Ford Mustang FR500C, a 1969 Dodge Charger used in the “Dukes of Hazardâ€, a 1996 Presidential Limo, and Carroll Shelby’s 1969 convertible GT500. A Replica of the Bill “Grumpy†Jenkins 1966 L-79 Nova NHRA A-Stock Race Car was sold for $57,000. Several people took home race-used Winston/Nextel/Sprint Cup cars. On Friday, a Ford Taurus driven by Ryan Newman and Jeremy Mayfield sold for $37,000. Ray Evernham spent $72,000 on an orange and white 1955 Chevy Bel Aire Custom. Tony Stewart was on hand to buy, and sell. He bought a tangerine orange 1950 Mercury custom 2-door coupe for $85,000, and a black custom 1967 GTO for $120,000. However, what he sold made more than one person tear up with happiness and appreciation. Friday night a 2006 Chevy Monte Carlo #20 burned its way onto the auction stage with Smoke behind the wheel. The car was described this way in the car guide: “This Tony Stewart/Home Depot car has won 3 races including the Banquet 400 at the Kansas Speedway on Oct 1, 2006, the Bass Pro Shop 500 at the Atlanta Motor Speedway on October 29, 2006, and the Dickies 500 at the Texas Motor Speedway on November 5, 2006. It also had six Top 5 finishes and ten Top 10 finishes. An awesome racecar with a 358 V8 and incredible history. Tony Stewart will be present to offer this amazing car. All proceeds of the sale will benefit the Darrell Gwynn Foundation.†Everyone in the auction area was on their feet as Tony climbed out of the car. Darrell Gwynn was on the stage to describe what the proceeds from the car would be used for. Next to him, a young man suffering from Muscular Dystrophy was sitting in a new wheelchair provided by Darrell’s foundation. Darrell said he hoped the proceeds from the sale of the car would help buy more wheelchairs for more youngsters who needed them, but couldn’t afford the $10,000 price tag. Lead auctioneer Spanky Assiter took the floor, surrounded by people who wanted to see just how much the car would go for. Spanky said he was going to have to do the auction blind because so many people were around him he couldn’t see the bidders Quickly, the bidding hit $100,000. Then $200,000. Tony took the microphone and added a race-worn race suit and helmet to sweeten the deal. $250,000 was bid. Smoke then offered a photo op and autographs. $300,000. Tony then took the microphone again and offered up his championship ring from 2006, valued at $25,000, to anyone who would add another $25k to the bid. Up stepped Reggie Jackson, who offered up $10,000 of his own money to add to the total. Another person added $25,000. Craig Jackson, the son of one of the auctions founders and current CEO of the auction, added $50,000 of his own money. The auction took less than 10 minutes. Every time the bidding stalled, Tony worked to get it going again. By the time the gavel was hammered, $380,000 was raised to go directly to the Darrell Gwynn Foundation. It also turned out that the man who bought the car had already donated $100,000 to the foundation before the car came up to bid. In the end, the foundation came away with enough money to buy not one, not two, not three, not four, not ten, but 38 wheelchairs for those who could not afford them. I had tears in my eyes. Tony had a huge smile on his face. Gwynn had a look of extreme gratitude on his face. Everyone in the room stood and applauded. By the time the last of the cars are auctioned off today, tens of millions of dollars will have changed hands. But for ten minutes on Friday night, a now-obsolete race car driven by a man many people love to hate was used to raise money for those facing devastating injuries and diseases. The final tally brought tears of joy to some eyes, a really big smile to the face of the man who had driven it so well, and added a one-of-a-kind memory to an auction known for dream cars and big pockets.

Hey Tim S. , John built his or had it built to be precise, to his specs. It is a matter of symantics, he built the car for himself before the reunion movie but happened to get it in there. He built is as a replica at first. I agree with you on the history part, but it is also what somebdy was willing to pay for it. Maybe the charity part brought the price up some as was the case on some of the other cars there. I am a member and read the stuff over at the CGLFC and it seemed that what I said was what saying over there about the price. Would Kenny Wayne Sheppard's Extreme Lee or Kid Rock's GL have fetched a ton of money because they were in magazines and videos? You never know. Who cares what he said about the movie? It is almost 3 years old so time to get over it. By the way, last time I "talked" to you months ago , you had just lost your job as you were laid off. Find anything yet? I'm gone Darrell

Watched the Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction most of the past few nights. John Schneider's General Lee affectionately known as Bo's General Lee sold for $450,000. He drove it on stage , played the dixie horn and then got on the roof and got the crowd to sing " Good Ol' Boys'" and said a few times that it was the most recognizable car in the world. John even did his "jump" into the car on TV. Great TV moment. Bidding opened up at it sort of stalled at $200,000 for a bit then John got on the mic trying to give some history about it. Even made a comment about "the other guys" and his was a real GL movie used car all be it the reunion movie Hazzard In Hollywood. But it was still a replica that was used in a reunion movie. The announcers who I loved throughout the auction for their knowledge were somewhat oblivious to the General Lee. Calling the roll bar and front push bar a rebar or something like that. On stage , the two announcers could not even open the hood right away and one of them is MOPAR expert/guru. But they make a valid point that I even said to my wife earlier on before the car came up - that you can actually get a Charger adn Hemi crate motor and make your self a replica like John's or better for a lot LESS money when the bidding was at 200k. All in all in was fun. John got in the crowd and worked the bidders and finally got it up to 450k. Don't forget this was the one that on Ebay last year and sold for a $1,000,000 that turned out to be bogus and John mentioned that on stage too. I think he was lucky he got what he got for it. I'm gone Darrell

Welcome Ben01 to HNet. Great to have our North of The Border friends here. Are you a hockey fan? If you are , we can talk some hockey then. If not, we can always talk about the Dukes. Don't be shy, join in on any discussion and please read the fan fics. HNet has some great, great stories form some great writers. I only wish I could write some of the stories they create, but I do love reading them. I'm gone Darrell

Part 2 - continued One important deviation from “stock†would be the rubber bolted to these cars. Radial tires have been a decided detriment to stock car racing; Goodyear introduced radial tires to the sport not only because they were faster, but in an attempt to drive upstart tire company Hoosier from the sport. However, the bias ply tires – last used in the late 1980s – were more predictable and forgiving. Drivers could race harder on bias ply tires, and speeds were both reasonable and safer. Oh, Goodyear might get upset, but let’s look at things logically: how many of you go out and buy tires that need to be replaced every fifty miles and can’t be operated in the rain for your wife’s mini-van? The idea that racing improves the breed when it comes to street tires is as outdated as tailfins and whitewalls. Finally, it’s time to revamp the points system and payout structure of our sport. Each race is currently not 1/36th of the season. Each race is a unique event in and of itself, and it should be viewed only as such. Every effort should be made to see that that week’s unique event is of the highest possible caliber, and there should be a massive points difference between the first and second place finishers tally. But that’s not enough. Two cars racing for the lead is all well and good (and a bit of a rarity lately) but there needs to be good racing throughout the front half of the pack. Points payouts between each position should be made significant enough that we see the old style dogfighting (not literally, Mr. Vick) over each spot we once enjoyed. And we cannot stop there. The current payout structure rewards teams with the big checks at the end of the year. That system was designed back when NASCAR was struggling to find enough teams to run the full schedule after the car manufacturers withdrew from the sport in the early 1970s. Now, there’s too many teams that want to run the full schedule week in and week out. Make the purses to win races or finish in the Top 10 much larger, while at the same time making the year end payout for the top teams much smaller. $100,000 and the pride involved ought to be plenty of incentive to win a title – and if a driver wants to fly in a private jet and keep an eighty foot motor yacht at the marina, he can damn well get out there and run for all he’s worth each and every week to earn the big check, to the considerable delight of the fans who bought tickets not for the season but for that one particular event. It’s those old time fans who used to fill up the grandstands, remember? Crew chiefs often remind today’s drivers to keep “the Big Picture†in mind when trying to get them to give up positions or a chance at a win for a safe and sure points day. Well, the “Big Picture†here is that the sport is all the poorer for conservative racing, and it’s beginning to show up in NASCAR’s bottom line. You want the old-time fans back? Limit the cost of the sport on both sides of the catchfence. Make a set of easily understandable rules and stick to them. Give the drivers and teams incentive to finish as best they can each week in cars similar to what fans might have parked out in the lot. Then, clear out the bottom ten rows of the grandstands, stand back, and let them summa*****es race.

A second part of the above article just came out . He makes some very good points. Let's see what ya'll think about the current NASCRAP. Give me back the days he mentioned in the article. His last sentence pretty much sums it up pretty good From Matt McLaughlin - frontstretch.com Winning Back Longtime NASCAR Fans : Part II Matt McLaughlin · Friday January 4, 2008 Editor’s Note: This is Part Two of a two-part series by Matt McLaughlin on fixing NASCAR’s future. If you missed Part One, click here to catch up. Speaking of TV – And who isn’t these days, usually noting that they find the current NASCAR broadcasts absolutely terrible to the point of being almost unwatchable. Of course, everyone needs to be appreciative to a point, because only a generation ago a damn few races were on TV at all – and those that were were shown in part often weeks after the fact. But like so many things, it’s not that much harder to do things well than it is to do them poorly. A lot of folks, myself included, thought or just hoped that things would improve when ESPN got back into NASCAR broadcasting. That didn’t turn out to be the case. After a tough year, it would behoove ESPN management and “talent†to use the offseason to review tapes not of this year’s broadcasts but tapes from the glory days of the mid-to-late 1980s. Those broadcasts were free of gimmicks and talking heads with little to say, long on information and actual coverage of the racing itself. Today’s race broadcasts were exactly that, coming across too much like People magazine – a curse on this generation – and too little like ABC’s old Wide World of Sports. Naturally, the primary bugaboo that drives fans nuts is “too many commercials.†You’ve got to pity the poor producers and directors of these race broadcasts, trying to cover about the only sport with no natural “timeouts†or scheduled breaks. They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t with ads; while fans are screaming there are too many commercials, network execs are screaming they need to sell more at higher prices to make race coverage profitable. The number one improvement that could be made to current race broadcasts is to adopt the “side by side†type coverage ABC/ESPN uses during IRL races. That way at least fans can keep track of what’s going on on-track, while enduring the barrage of commercial messages. Secondly, I know there are new fans to the sport who might not be the dyed-in-the-wool gearheads that most old-time fans were – and I appreciate they may not know a camshaft from a driveshaft. But if I have to endure one more animated explanation of valve train failure, I might launch a frosty through the HDTV. Networks can use their websites to provide technical data for the uninformed; it’s time to stop talking down to the audience. Along those same lines, it’s well past time for some members of the broadcast teams to stop serving as NASCAR apologists and to realize that they’re there to report the “big show;†and contrary to what they think, they are not the big show. A lot more honesty and a bit more humility would improve race broadcasts overnight. Stop worrying about biting the hand that feeds; it’s the networks that are feeding NASCAR huge bushels of cash. Believe me, for all their occasional bluster NASCAR officials aren’t going to upset that gravy train. It’s the Racing, Stupid! – The core of what ails the last couple of years of stock car racing is what NASCAR officials like to call “the product†– the racing itself. The fact NASCAR officials call racing “the product†is a pretty clear indication of what’s wrong at the heart of the matter. Racing isn’t a “product†– it’s a “sport.†Equally clearly, my dear Mr. France, racing is again a “sport,†not “entertainment.†Most sports – with the obvious exception of baseball and golf – are entertaining by nature. But entertainment is not “sporting.†If the current “product†is seen as entertainment, then it is acceptable to manipulate the rules to make the “product†more entertaining. By that analogy, I’m thinking of all those dubious debris caution flags that have peppered the endings of otherwise monotonous racing the last few years. I’m thinking about the absurdity that is the “Chase,†used to determine our champion and prolong crowning the victor. In my mind (what is left of it) Jimmie Johnson is the “Entertaining Product†champion of 2007, while Jeff Gordon – who amassed the most legitimate points of any driver this season – is the “Sport†champion. But let’s leave aside the debate about the Chase for a moment and get back to the brass tacks. Over the last few years, “the Product†itself has sucked on the track. 2007 has entered the record books as one of the most tepid in series history; for every finish like the first Martinsville race or the second Texas race, there were too many quickly forgettable “Instant Debacles†waged in the name of stock car racing. The problems leading to the current state of affairs are myriad. Some fault must be laid on the current mix of tracks on the schedule. The loss of two dates at Rockingham and one at Darlington removes three dates from a pair of highly competitive and unique tracks. The continued scheduling of two dates at places prone to put on snoozefests like New Hampshire, Michigan, California, and the inclusion of Joliet now almost guarantees a high ratio of clinkers to classics when it comes to good racing. Let’s face it: when Michigan, California, Joliet and Kansas City were designed, they were planned as “dual use†facilities that would cater to both stock car and open wheel. Well, with open wheel racing having become an asterisk on the sport’s scene – rivaling curling and fencing in the American conscience – it’s simply time to tear up those tracks and build a facility more suited to racing the “taxi cabs.†Yeah, it’s expensive and the shareholders will *****, but it’s another case of the long term good versus short-term profits. California is a track that particularly galls me. Other than a few Truck events, I can not recall a single race worth watching at the joint. It’s time to dig it up and replace it with a three-quarter mile track patterned after Richmond – or better yet, replace it with a three-quarter mile dirt track patterned after Richmond. Now that would be something to see. As for Joliet, how about a one-mile circular track with graduated banking reaching to forty degrees at the top of the corners? Kansas City? A one-mile track configured as a figure eight, with the frontstretch bridging over the backstretch. That ought to drive the chassis guys crazy; but it’s time to start thinking outside the box. Some blame must also go to the hideous new cars, which have not solved the problems they were designed to eliminate. Everyone says these new cars are tough; I don’t know about that, but I agree they are tough to look at. And drivers, by and large, are still afraid to beat and bang with the things, fearful of upsetting their aerodynamic perfection. I hate aerodynamics; frankly, I feel a rule forcing any crew member found within three miles of a wind tunnel to wear a pink party dress for the rest of the season would be good for the sport. But wind tunnels should have been a thing of the past, as the CoT was supposed to eliminate the “aero loose†condition that is ruining racing. The problem is simple: when a faster car attempts to pass a car ahead of it, the loss of air off the nose makes the car “looseâ€. (Simple explanation; the car wants to go straight even as the driver turns the steering wheel). That makes the driver unable to pass, creating a disappointing single-file stalemate. It’s a problem that has been deviling stock car racing for a decade now – and it’s time to eliminate it. Much of the problem is there isn’t enough “stock†left in stock cars. These are aerodynamically tweaked rockets, with suspension geometry unlike anything that has been run on the street since the days of the horseless carriage. With the exception of the necessary safety equipment, stock cars should be simply that – “stock,†complete with outside rearview mirrors, stock front valances, stock suspensions, and production-based fuel injected engines. Ideally, they would be virtually indistinguishable sheet metal wise from the Mustang you can drive off a dealer’s lot, or the new Challenger and Camaro you’ll be able to purchase soon. In my opinion, a fender removed from a Mustang rental car in the track lot should bolt perfectly to a Cup car, and the windshield and side windows should drop in place as well. As for the engines, horsepower should be capped at whatever level the competition department can beg past the warranty department in mass produced cars sold by the thousands at prices under $35,000. That would get the old time Ford, Chevy, and Mopar stalwarts back in the stands; strip off the exhaust systems, paint some numbers on the side, and race those summa*****es while Al Gore has a coronary over the carbon footprint of the sport.

Alright everyone. Speedweeks is upon us very soon, teams are testing in Daytona. Another start to the NASCRAP season. Here is a good article I read on frontstretch.com by Matt McLauglin Winning Back Longtime NASCAR Fans : Part I Thinkin' Out Loud · Matt McLaughlin · Thursday January 3, 2008 Editor’s Note: This is Part One of a two-part series by Matt McLaughlin on fixing NASCAR’s future. Part Two will be posted Friday. Towards the end of last season, Brian France gave a press conference concerning the state of the sport of NASCAR. Not unexpectedly, given his position and lack of mental ability, for the most part Mssr. France assured everybody all was well despite the sagging TV ratings and blocks of unsold seats in the grandstands. But France did state that NASCAR was determined to keep and win back the longtime fans who have been the backbone of the sport all these decades, those who have been jumping ship in record numbers over the last few years. That’s a Tectonic shift in corporate policy, as such longtime fans have been routinely ignored and alienated for years now. In the past, NASCAR “corporate think†seemed to be, “Aw, let them old-timers go. There are plenty of folks lined up to grab them seats anyway, and we’ll have a better class of wealthier and less rowdy followers at the end of the day.†Well, that didn’t work out too well, did it? New fans can be a fickle bunch. The same problems that caused them to give up old interests and sports to give NASCAR a shot can drive them away from stock car racing just as readily. Blame it on MTV, blame it on You Tube, USA Today, the Internet, or whatever else – but it just seems that these days, folks don’t have much of an attention span anymore. They want their information and entertainment in bite size-easily digested nuggets. A four hour race after a ninety minute pre-race show that is a thinly disguised infomercial just doesn’t cut it in this Brave New World of “what have you done for me in the last five minutes?†Well as a card-carrying, hidebound traditionalist who also doubles as a saddle-weary and scarred longtime fan, I offer the following pointers to the NASCAR powers that be on winning back the old-timers who once kept your trough full. Lower Prices – Most longtime fans still work for a living, many of them in “blue collar†jobs. Not to put too fine a point on it, but ticket prices to NASCAR races are fricking obscene these days. It’s no longer a choice between a race weekend or a weekend hunting in the mountains, it’s become a decision between a race weekend and a summer family vacation. Not only have tickets to Cup races become too expensive, often to get them fans are forced to buy tickets to other events at the track they may not wish to or even be able to attend. So, the first step is to do away with these damned “season ticket†plans in deference to the working man; split it up so fans can pick and choose what they want to do. Of course, the price of a ticket is only part of the expense of a race weekend. Some tracks, most notably those run by Bruton Smith, have tried to rein in the price gouging of local hoteliers who have resorted to inflated rates and demanded lengthy minimum stays on event weekends. It behooves track general managers to work not only with the hospitality industry but with local Chambers Of Commerce to get costs under control for race fans. Let the local politicians know that if the gouging continues, those coveted race dates might just leave the area all together. To show good faith, those track GMs might want to take a look at their own concession stand prices, which amount to legalized larceny as well. Yes, race tracks can try to wring every last dime they can out of each fan that attends a race – but it’s not good for repeat business. Gimme Back My Cooler – Given the high concession prices noted above, race fans have traditionally packed their own coolers with food, soft drinks, and of course, good ol’ beer. Well, back after the tragedy of 9/11 that right – which many fans and myself consider inalienable – began to erode. Tracks limited the number and size of coolers a party could bring into the stands, claiming that it was in the interest of “security.†Of course, fans saw right through that gambit and responded with outrage. At least other new tracks didn’t even try that ruse; they simply banned coolers altogether, admitting they wanted to force fans to buy at the concession stands. Oddly enough, a lot of those same tracks are having difficulty selling tickets these days. Hmm… could it be that fans have decided if their coolers aren’t welcome, they aren’t welcome either? All these years after the fact, let’s compare terrorist attacks committed by cooler toting bad guys at the tracks that still allow full size coolers to the tracks that limit the size of coolers or ban them all together. Oddly enough, the score is zero to zero. Gimme Back My Color – Today’s generation of race car drivers contains some incredibly talented individuals. I’m an old timer, but I’m not going to say the latest generation of drivers couldn’t run with the heroes of my youth (As long as the newcomers were allowed to have power steering, of course). But it does seem to me that drivers in the days of yore were a lot more colorful and interesting than today’s crop of drivers; “old time†fans increasingly complain the new generation of competitors is too vanilla. I’ve had a peak behind the curtain, and I know that some of the drivers fans complain are too bland are actually pretty colorful guys, some with wicked senses of humor. But in an era where a driver serves as a corporate spokesperson in a clown suit, they watch what they say and what they do. Even one moment of unguarded emotion could have them fined or even suspended. At this point, it’s time for everyone to loosen up a little. Sponsors need to remember that racing is a physical and emotional sport, not lawn croquet. And NASCAR needs to stop penalizing drivers for every emotional outburst. If drivers want to push and shove each other while discussing one another’s ancestry, let ‘em do so. If drivers want to rub and bump on the cool down lane or to discuss an on track incident, let them have some slack within reason. To date, I have seen nothing in the last decade that even approaches the sort of beating and banging Bobby Allison and Richard Petty used to do routinely. That’s a problem, because it was rivalries like that Petty/Allison feud and the one between Cale Yarborough and Darrell Waltrip that put a lot of butts in the grandstands. Naturally, that sort of stuff can’t be allowed to happen on pit road – where crew members and officials might be hurt – but on the track, a few instances of bad temper give everyone something to talk about for the rest of the week. Don’t get me wrong; I’m as uncomfortable as anyone when kids hear bad language on TV (to be frank, if I had kids I might not even own a TV these days). But it is the job of the network censors to keep that language off the air more so than it is that of the driver never to issue a colorful phrase or two after an altercation.

Welcome to HNet. Glad to have you part of the community. There are plenty of people who will talk about the Dukes day and night on here. Everyone is great on here, especially our mods who keep the peace between us folks. Happy to have ya on the BEST Dukes sites on the net. I'm gone Darrell

Welcome aboard traster67. Glad to have you here at HNet. Join the fun and don't be shy. We have some good folk here. Some great fan-fics to read or join in on. Just remember you have joined the BEST dang Dukes site. I'm gone Darrell

Tom Awesome job so far. I love the updates of the General in progress. It is very much appreciated from everyone on here (if I may speak for them) that you are keeping us here at HNet updated. I see you on the CGLFC site alot and hope you drop by here more often. Happy New Year Darrell

If it is a continuation that will be better, at least to me anyway. I really have no problem with remakes, retellings, reimaginings or whatever you call them. Granted some of them aren't as good as the original, but I do like to see someone elses thought on them. This one could go either way. I will reserve judgement until I actually see it. Hopefully it will better than 2 Knight Rider made for TV movies in the 90's. Knight Rider 2000 - 1991 Knight Rider 2010 - 1994 Bother were not good so maybe the third time will be a charm I'm gone Darrell

A year and a half later , I am resurrecting the wrestling thread. Not much has really changed in the WWE and TNA in that time. I still love TNA better. Come on now let's get this thread going again. Share your favorite wrestlers, company, matches, fueds, etc... I'm gone Darrell

Johnny B Goode - By just about anybody Roll Over Beethoven - Chuck Berry Rock Me Amadeus - Falco Hey Jude - The Beatles

A couple of Allman Bros. songs Melissa - Allman Brothers Band In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed - Allman Brothers Band

I got a few more Maggie May - Rod Stewart ( can't believe no one has mentioned it already) Ballad Of Curtis Loew - Lynyrd Skynyrd Julie & Lucky - Dan Baird ( Georgia Satelllites singer )

Enough of this crap. Stop with the name calling . Stop with the insinuations and accusations. Enough of the dirt kicking. There is no need for any of this any more. We are all Dukes Fans here and that is why we are here. Everybody can have THEIR own opinion on what they think and observe about the Dukes. Maryanne, Brian or Meadow - please lock this thread up. Darrell

What a minute there. Where was anything perverted in this topic? Pointing out some scenes is perverted? Well then it is just as perverted as trying to understand some of opinions expressed on this topic. Please do not compare this to something on "adult" websites. Maybe it would have been better if you didn't refer to TX as perverted or say he has "perverted opinions". It seems , from what I read, that a select few of you had objections to a post that is over a year old. And it turned in to a semi-religious sermonon morals and values. That is all fine and dandy, but each has there own and do not need to hear it "preached" like it has on this topic. We are all DOH fans and that is why we are here. I loved what TX wrote a few posts ago. "Seems some of you are just playing a 'role'/'characters' here on the HazzardNet-Forums. Like an online actor of sorts. Chances are some of those same cats have prolly checked out some of the 'malfunctions' themselves, then got online and continued to play the 'role'/'character' they feel they have to play on here. If I am the bad guy in the mask.... then so be it... I can handle ppl wrongly viewing my online personality that way.... its all good." I'm gone Darrell

Not really a college football fan.Being from Long Island, college football isn't like it is here. We had no D1 teams on the island or in NY Metro area at all. Most people I have met ask whether I am a Rutgers fan. They think that is close to my area. Jackson County is about 20-25 miles west of Ann Arbor and about 35-40 miles south of Lansing. So it is mixed on being a Mich. State or Mich. fan. I tell you it was awesome the first game this season when Appalachian St beat Michigan. After hearing all the trash talk around work and my neighborhood, I was rooting for the underdog. The funny thing is I kept saying to people that you can't take then lightly as they are ranked #1 in D1A. And sure enough , what a game. Darrell

My daughter got me another copy of the Special Edition for Christmas. From what I understand they changed some of the sounds when they remastered it in 5.1. The opening scene where the tractor starts up is a different one than the original and in a few other spots too. Overall it is worth it nad most likely the only special edition we will ever get. I'm gone Darrell

Janie Jones - The Clash Sheena Is a Punk Rocker - The Ramones Judy Is A Punk - The Ramones

Sheila - Tommy Roe (sounds like Buddy Holly) Peggy Sue - Buddy Holly Christine Sixteen - KISS

I was originally from Long Island. Lived there until June , then I was transferred to Michigan. I had an apartment in Ann Arbor , a block away from the "Big House". Then my wife and kids finally moved out and we are settled in Jackson County, MI. Great little town we live in. My kids love it and that is all that matters. The worst part is that I am NOT a Michigan fan at all. Darrell

It depends on the mood I am in, but as far as right now The Ramones The Clash Buzzcocks Want to listen to the stuff you CAN'T hear in Michigan. I'm gone Darrell

Amanda- Boston Amy - Pure Prairie League (Vince Gill was in the band at the time) Jack & Diane - John Mellencamp Amanda - Waylon Jennings (different song than Boston's)

Thank you for the welcome back and the congrats on my newest little one.. Like I said it feels good to be back home here on HNet. Just wondereing where some of the longtime people are. I see some newer ones on here that are posting regularly but I am not familiar with them with me being gone for a while. Shoot Brian and Meadow haven't even welcomed me back yet. Darrell