RogerDuke Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Does anybody understand today's net neutrality vote enough to know if it will hurt HazzardNet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossC Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 I doubt that it will have any impact on HNet, but today's decision isn't the one I'd have wanted if I lived in the US. At present, all internet traffic is treated equally, so it doesn't matter if you're streaming a movie, shopping online with a multi-national company, looking up your local church group or reading HNet - it all has to be treated the same by your internet service provider (ISP). If today's changes go through, ISPs could provide a better/faster service for companies that paid them, or charge you more to use certain parts of the internet. The FCC was obviously quite happy to ignore a letter asking it to maintain net neutrality, despite signatories including “father of the internet”, Vint Cerf, the inventor of the world wide web, Tim Berners-Lee and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. So far, the Democrats plan to overturn the proposal, and Washington's governor says his state will protect net neutrality. From the ISPs, a statement from Comcast says "our internet service is not going to change." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Everybody in the press over here seems upset with the decision but the press really favors Democrats. I don't understand it. My main concern was HazzardNet but if the HN is OK I'm OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossC Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 You'd better hope that your service provider doesn't block access to HNet. I can't think of any reason why they would, but the new law means that they could if they wanted to. Before the law change, they weren't allowed to do things like that. Right from its inception, the Internet was supposed to be a level playing field, hence the reason why some of its founders cared enough to add their names to that letter. An unrestricted online experience has become a given freedom in the West. Countries that control what their citizens can see are generally frowned upon. This law isn't about the government controlling what you can see, but your ISP can. Admittedly, there's going to be a lot of scaremongering until the dust settles. None of that would be happening if they'd just left the original law alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Blocking websites I don't think will ever happen however I bet a lot of the ISP's will throttle users of streaming services especially where they have a stranglehold on customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadowmufn Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have been online for 24 years. Net neutrality rules have only been in place in the US since 2015. Attempts by ISPs to throttle or otherwise mess with their customers' online experience over the years have been met with lawsuits and the government has generally sided with customers. Since 2015, I've noticed less competition (i.e. there are fewer options for internet in many areas). People I know in rural areas have actually lost home internet access and have to drive a half hour into town or more to use libraries or free wifi at local businesses. I don't think you have a lot to worry about. In other words, the Internet did just fine for the 46 years before net neutrality rules were in place. I think it'll be fine with the rollback. Hobie Hartkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 When the next war happens I want to be in a foxhole with Meadowmufn. Meadowmufn and Hobie Hartkins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roth Potter Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Ain't that a bit small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Hey MM.....saw the train crash on TV. I hope you weren't around there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadowmufn Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Nope. I'm north of where the crash occurred. When I go into the office, I take the northbound train to Seattle, the Sounder. The crash was Amtrak. I've seen those things go flying through at insane speeds and I'm frankly quite surprised there haven't been more accidents. I feel really bad for the victims and their families, as this should never have happened. Those trains can't go through 30 mph curves at 80 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 2:07 AM, Meadowmufn said: I have been online for 24 years. Net neutrality rules have only been in place in the US since 2015. Attempts by ISPs to throttle or otherwise mess with their customers' online experience over the years have been met with lawsuits and the government has generally sided with customers. Since 2015, I've noticed less competition (i.e. there are fewer options for internet in many areas). People I know in rural areas have actually lost home internet access and have to drive a half hour into town or more to use libraries or free wifi at local businesses. I don't think you have a lot to worry about. In other words, the Internet did just fine for the 46 years before net neutrality rules were in place. I think it'll be fine with the rollback. My ISP started throttling customers back in 2012 and then instituted new plans that include GB limits and when you hit the limit your internet is throttled to the slowest speed till the next billing cycle starts. Where I live I only have 3 choices for internet; my current isp, phone company which can't even get phone service right or a Satellite dish which I would have to pay a 'dish fee' to the apartment complex I live at which would offset the savings of switching. With the current administration businesses are basically in charge of Washington DC more than they have been in the last decade. So if you don't think some big ISP's will take full advantage of this you are living in a dream world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roth Potter Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Well, the thing is. If some ISPs will do that and some wont significantly you can be sure that there will be a big rush to other providers. Here you can get almost all types of providers from my country. The only difference is if their christian, block certain websites by default or have added bonusses like free sports if you take their broader packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 22 hours ago, Meadowmufn said: Nope. I'm north of where the crash occurred. When I go into the office, I take the northbound train to Seattle, the Sounder. The crash was Amtrak. I've seen those things go flying through at insane speeds and I'm frankly quite surprised there haven't been more accidents. I feel really bad for the victims and their families, as this should never have happened. Those trains can't go through 30 mph curves at 80 mph. Glad to know you're okay. While I knew that the chances of you being in it were extremely slim, I guess it's just human nature to worry when someone you know is in that neck of the woods. I wish the survivors a speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie Hartkins Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Our Meadow Muffin is safe! YESSS!!! Come on by the car lot sometime Meadow and we'll slip behind the building and have a sip to celebrate your safety! ( You never waste a sip!) Roth Potter and Meadowmufn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 LOL Hobie is always looking for a reason to take a sip or two. Now that he knows MM is safe he might even have three to celebrate! Hobie Hartkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie Hartkins Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, RogerDuke said: LOL Hobie is always looking for a reason to take a sip or two. Now that he knows MM is safe he might even have three to celebrate! oh yes!! Holidays are a good reason to take a sip, good friends feeling better is another good reason....always a good reason to take a sip....you never waste a sip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Hobie Harkins said: oh yes!! Holidays are a good reason to take a sip, good friends feeling better is another good reason....always a good reason to take a sip....you never waste a sip! Yes but on the days that we're not having a holiday you need a sip to cheer you up. I see a trend here...LOL Hobie Hartkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie Hartkins Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, RogerDuke said: Yes but on the days that we're not having a holiday you need a sip to cheer you up. I see a trend here...LOL Well, on days where you THINK there's no holiday or reason to take a sip....just get creative....There's Arbor Day, national teachers appreciation day, the eve before Christmas eve.....plenty of days to celebrate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDuke Posted December 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 If you think about it every day is a holiday because every day is unique. That's why I tip a glass of buttermilk every evening just like Enos. Hobie Hartkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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