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Yeah, the funny thing about that is; that car changed from a Monaco to a Polara in the middle of the chase. When you see the General Lee chasing it in that famous first scene where they both jump the knoll, it is a Monaco. It is still a Monaco for a few more scenes after that. Suddenly it changes to a Polara which is a completely different body-style (though still a C-body) and remains as a Polara until Cooter crashes it.

I am curious about the 1979 Fury. I was under the impression that there was no Fury in '79. I searched the internet and found this at www.allpar.com: "1979 had no Fury. In 1980, the Gran Fury name was brought back and applied to the R-body Chrysler Newport (an odd decision, since both were sold in the same dealerships). It came only as a four door sedan, and was intended mainly for fleets. Sales were dismal, and it was cut loose in 1981." http://www.allpar.com/model/fury.html Also, I found this: "R Body--1979-1981. Plymouth: Gran Fury ('80-'81--no '79 Fury or Gran Fury of any type) Dodge: St. Regis Chrysler: Newport, New Yorker, New Yorker Fifth Avenue Wheelbases: 118.5: all models" http://teamchicago.com/imperial/moparbdy.htm Anyway, if there was a Fury in '79, or even a Gran Fury, I would like to see a picture of one because my mind is drawing a blank trying to remember ever seeing one. You say it was twin to the St. Regis, so it would have been an R-body, right? (gotta love the St. Regis, lol, that was Inspector Sledge Hammer's car) That car was a riot. The most impressive cop car I ever saw was a 1968 Satellite; which was a Roadrunner twin, and in the case of this cop car, was a Roadrunner twin with 4 doors. It had a 383 in it I believe though there is nothing to say that they couldn't have ordered it with a 426 Hemi. Imagine a '68 4 door Roadrunner with a Hemi. Now that is a car that could have given plenty of chase to the General Lee (in stock form, a Roadrunner was always faster than a Charger, all else being equal (drivetrain, tires, driver weight, etc) because the Roadrunner was typically a few hundred pounds lighter than the Charger, even though they were both B-bodies.)

Is there any more to the story than that? Why did it cost him $50,000? What went wrong? Did he not weight the trunk properly to balance the car out? If he didn't know how to do such things, why was he jumping a car in the first place? Was he injured? I really wish that people would quit destroying 2nd generation Chargers. When the DoH first came on the air they were just a 10 year old car; no different than smashing up a 1995 model car today. Now they are 36 years old and they are not exactly common. Money; whether it is $1 or $1,000,000 is replaceable. Old cars aren't. Hopefully one day the aftermarket will be so big for Mopars that you can build a brand new one from the ground up without ever laying a finger on an original, like you can today with a '32 Ford or a '57 Chevy.

I agree. The new mustangs look great as far as modern cars go. It was a surprise to me when I first saw them because I have become very cynical toward newer cars and their styling and drivetrains. It seems like they actually make an effort to irritate people with all these ho-hum cars they have cranked out since the 80's. Ford in a somewhat unique gesture has gone and made something that actually coincides with what people want. They did a good job with their Super Duty line of trucks too and I was no less surprised at that; what with their "basketball-with-a-bed" styling of their '97 and later regular F-series trucks. I appreciate Mopar's truck line but other than their out-of-reach Vipers, they haven't done anything impressive with their cars since '71. I had high hopes when I saw that concept Charger 6 years ago and then the new Hemi came out. Things were looking good. Then this Honda wanna-be 4 door "Charger" is what they serve up? Talk about an insult. How anyone in their right mind, much less a design team, could associate that mundane family sedan styling with the venerable "Charger" name is beyond me. That car is as far off the mark in regard to its namesake as a "Camaro" pickup truck would be.

There's no place that I'd rather be than right here With my redneck, my white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer The barmaid is mad 'cause some guy made a pass The jukebox is playin' there stands a glass The cigarette smoke kinda hangs in the air Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer A cowboy is cussin' the pinball machine A drunk at the bar is gettin noisy and mean Some guy on the phone says, "I'll be home soon, dear." Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer No we don't fit in with that white collar crowd We're a little too rowdy and a little too loud But there's no place that I'd rather be than right here With my redneck, my white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer The semis are passing on the highway outside The 4:30 crowd is about to arrive The sun's goin' down and they'll all soon be here Rednecks, white socks, and blue ribbon beer No we don't fit in with that white collar crowd We're a little too rowdy and a little too loud But there's no place that I'd rather be than right here With my redneck, my white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer There's no place that I'd rather be than right here With my redneck, my white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer - Johnny Russell

There is another verse to that song in the full length version that is sometimes played on the radio. I don't like that version because, even though it is still Waylon singing, he sings a little differently and the music is quite a bit different. Anyway, the extra verse goes something like this: "I'm a good ol' boy You know my mama loves me But she can't understand [why] They keep showing my hands and not my face on TV" Edit: I should read the rest of threads in this forum before posting. This has already been posted in another thread, lol.

LOL. I wouldn't apply the General Lee's uniform to anything but a 2nd generation Charger in real life. However, as far as new cars go, that 2006 Charger doesn't look half bad to me now that I have done some shadetree Photoshop bodywork to it. Why can't they make big, muscular RWD cars these days? Why does everything have to look like their nose and tails have been lopped off; be FWD and pretty much look like a Honda or BMW knockoff? The compact family car is a nice option to have but it ceases to be an option when that is just about all anyone makes.

I made two pictures in Photoshop. The first one that I posted, I turned the car into a 2 door, made it orange, put an "01" on the door and some General Lee wheels. I got to fiddling around with the picture more and I stretched the front of the car and also moved the front wheels slightly forward, I stretched the rear of the car but left the wheels where they were originally and I added some curves and widened the C-pillar to make it a little more like the 2nd generation Chargers. The actual 2006 Charger is only a 4 door and looks like this (this is the picture that I started with):

Is there a story behind this? I have always guessed that maybe they decided that the car was redundant, being basically the same thing as the General Lee, the only real difference being the body panels. I have also thought that maybe they decided that having off-road capability (4WD Jeep) in the family's car stable could be beneficial to future storylines. Another thing about that car; at what point did the idea that the car belonged to Daisy come into being? In the first couple of episodes I believe it was stated or implied that the car belonged to Bo and Luke; like when the balladeer stated that the boys had another car but they took the General Lee when they were expecting trouble, which was most of the time. Also there is talk about Cooter having borrowed Luke's car in the first episode.

I would be most interested in seeing this episode: "11. Horse Cops gs: Lee V. Gordon () Alex Henteloff () Ed McCready () Ned Flory () James Best (Rosco P. Coltrane) When Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane comes to the big city, he finds more excitement than he expected. b: 28-Jan-1981 pc: 167264 w: William Kelley & Leonard B. Kaufman s: William Kelley d: Bruce Kessler" That, combined with the Uncle Jesse and Daisy episodes would be like being able to see 3 "new" episodes of the Dukes of Hazzard. If nothing else; they could include those 3 episodes of "Enos" on a bonus disc with the season 5 DoH set; 3 episodes fit perfectly on a single-sided DL DVD-5 "bonus disc".

The General Lee and Daisy are the eye candy of the show. I have taken a bunch of screenshots from the DVD's and they are about split equally between the car and the girl. Rosco is the main humor of the show. I am still amazed when watching the show these days at just how good that guy is. Bo and Luke are the guys that you would want to hang out with or be like when you "grow up" (in the case of kids watching the show). I always liked Bo a little bit better than Luke but they were both great elements of the show. Boss Hogg and Enos were complimentary to Rosco in the humor department IMO. They were both great actors but Rosco was the foundation. Uncle Jesse anchored the whole show. Not a real entertaining character IMO but it wouldn't have been right without him. Cooter was the perfect sidekick for the Duke family; great actor too.

The odds of finding that whole series on tape = pretty slim. It aired from November 1980 to May 1981. VCR's were still quite expensive back then and not very common. On top of that, it has been about 24 years since the last episode aired. The general rule for syndication is that a show needs 4 seasons minimum, though there have been exceptions (such as with "The Greatest American Hero" and "Sledge Hammer!") and I'm pretty sure that "Enos" with its one season, has never been syndicated. Alan Spencer (the creator and producer of "Sledge Hammer!") worked hard to get his show onto DVD, doing much of the legwork himself. Before that, he had bought the complete rights to the show and at his own expense, had them professionally put to video tape and sold the set on eBay for large sums of money (they usually sold for several hundred dollars for both seasons). Getting a DVD release paid off though as it has been selling surprisingly well (only surprising to dimwitted industry execs who have no clue what the public wants) and is even being sold in big chains like Best Buy. The second season has already been slated for a DVD release. Of course, "Sledge Hammer!" was one of the funniest shows ever on TV (the funniest show ever, IMO) and had quite a cult following; I don't think that "Enos" could be put in the same category. It didn't do too well when it was on and I'm guessing that today it would only be of any interest to the most diehard of Dukes of Hazzard fans. Someone above mentioned the idea of including it with the season 5 DoH DVD release and not only is that a great idea IMO; as a nice incentive for people to buy the season of the DoH that [almost] no one really cares about (besides the last few episodes when the real Dukes are back); but I also think it would be the only financially feasible way for a big company like Warner Brothers to release the "Enos" series. I only remember seeing one episode of it when I was a kid. I remember being bored and not really caring if I saw another episode or not (The DoH had big appeal to kids and adults alike; "Enos" wasn't geared toward kids at all). I would definitely like to see the series now though.

I love that song. I have been listening to that song [again] in my truck lately too (on the same Jerry Reed CD that I have had for about 7 years now) and I have been meaning to look up the lyrics. Quite a coincidence to see this thread. I have been thinking that they should work it into the new DOH movie. That song sounds awesome when cranked through a high voltage stereo system BTW.

A little better than before IMO...

If you look at the car (the photos of it when it was still in General Lee uniform right after the jump are the best so as not to be distracted by all the cinder block damage); it is relatively straight structurally. Things could have been a lot worse for it after a jump, like they were for this General Lee: Now that car is bent.

I agree; as long as they didn't keep that damnable chrome rocker panel trim on Lee #1 thoughout the entire series. Come to think of it, Lee #1 had a full 'cage which left no room for a back seat. That would have made a lot of the scenes which had people riding in back a little difficult and if you substitute another car that had a back seat, there goes the continuity.

360's for police package mid to late 70's B-bodies (Fury's, Monaco's and Coronets) like they used for most of the show's run (could have been 318's or even slant-6's if they used some non police-package cars which I am sure they did). The earlier episodes had some C-body police cruisers (Plymouth Fury's and/or Dodge Monaco's) which in all likelihood had 440's, just like the big Mopar C-body in the "Blues Brothers" (1974 Dodge Monaco). 1974 was the last year of the big C-Body Fury's though the "Gran Fury" continued as a C-body until '77. The Monaco's remained as C-bodies until '76. The regular Fury became a smaller B-body in '75 and along with its twins, the Dodge Monaco ( '77-'78 ) and Coronet, was the "classic" cruisers that are most commonly associated with the Dukes of Hazzard. The AMC Matadors from the early episodes commonly had 360's as well, though they could have also had 304's or 6 cylinders (258 c.i. "Leaning Tower of Power" (lol) slant-6's). Almost without exception, police package cars have automatic transmissions. 727 Torque-Flites in the big-block (383 or 440 typically) C-bodies and 904 Torque-Flites in the later, small block (318 or 360 typically) B-body police cruisers. To recap: The cars that looked like this: Were B-bodies and depending on the grill, tail lights and a few other minor things, could have been a '75-'78 Plymouth Fury, a '71-'76 Dodge Coronet or a '77-'78 Dodge Monaco. The one in that picture is specifically a 1975 Plymouth Fury. These cars with a police package typically had a 360 and a 904 Torque-Flite automatic transmission. The earlier cars that looked like this (such as in episode number 1): Were C-bodies and depending on the grill, tail lights and a few other minor things, could have been a '74 or earlier Plymouth Fury or a '76 or earlier Dodge Monaco. These cars with a police package typically had a 383 or 440 with a 727 Torque-Flite automatic transmission. That particular car is a '74 Dodge Monaco. There were a few AMC Matadors similar to this too: 360 or a 304 in those most likely.

These quotes may be a little (or a lot) off being from [old] memory and all, feel free to correct them (and/or add additional dialogue that I can't remember) Bo or Luke: "We couldn't have been doing more than 25..." Rosco: "That slow huh? Well I'll getcha fer IMPEDIN'!" This next one has been one of my favorites for years. I laughed myself to tears the first time I saw/heard it. I think the code number that he ad-libbed for the made-up infraction was "603" but I'm not sure: Rosco (after side-swiping a parked vehicle while chasing the Dukes) yelling to no one in particular: "YOU OUGHTN'T-A PARKED THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! I'll give him a six-oh-three...prob'ly a DRUNK PARKER!!!" Rosco: (while watching the General Lee driving up on two wheels) "How'd they do that? I could do that if I didn't want to scuff my hubcaps." Rosco to Boss Hogg after a car crash in which Boss was eating an oversized sandwhich: "You done scuffed your sandwich beyond repair." Rosco after a crash (he may have said this on more than one occasion): "That would have KILLED ten ordinary men."

You mean like this? LOL

The more I think about it, the more I think they should restore that car. If you think about it, the major damage to that car came from its famous jump in episode number 1. So when you are talking about restoring the car, this is a good picture to start with: I had my friend (bodyman/fabricator extraordinaire) look at that picture along with all the others on this page. Not knowing anything about the car's history he determined that the front end was twisted but didn't consider that to be much of a problem. I showed him the pictures of the car in the air and he figured that would definitely do it, lol. Since the rest of the body was wrecked via attack of the cinder blocks, that is pretty much superficial damage. He figured that the body could be fixed without even resorting to replacement panels. It spent the next 23 years in the elements but it was a southern state so we figured that the attacks of the rust beetles on the structure of the car wouldn't be too severe. For all intents and purposes he decided that the block was screwed, as it has been sitting without heads or intake manifold for what appears to be a long time and the crank is probably rust-welded to the block as well as major pitting in the cylinders, camshaft bore, etc. Now people have gone to great lengths to restore valuable numbers-matching blocks before (such as on hemi cars) and with enough money, that one could probably be saved. He questioned whether it would be worth it. He said if it were his, he would not throw the block away, but he would still put a different motor in the car (the original numbers-matching block of a classic Mopar is an important part of its identity). So we would be talking about replacing all of the suspension parts, rebuilding the drivetrain, straightening and fabrication work on the chassis and body panels; but it would still be the same car. I would look for the best Mopar specialist bodyman that I could find to restore the car. Then I would see if I could call upon the services of this guy to assist in turning it back into Lee #1 (him having built probably the most accurate clone of Lee #1 in existence already). BTW, I have that interview with "Bubba Williams" regarding his Lee #1 clone posted on my site. I saved that web page a while ago but I don't have the original link. If anyone knows the real link to that page, please post it.

That really sucks that they are crushing those cars. From your earlier post I gather that at least some of them were R/T's? What a shame. Those are some great pictures BTW. They did an excellent job of simulating age/wear and tear on those faded Chargers. The interior of the car that the child is sitting in isn't too bad though that steering wheel looks completely out of place. I have seen worse tachometers than that one in rice burners too; some of them the size of a damned wall clock, lol. The General Lee is supposed to be an R/T according to lore which makes an add-on tachometer redundant too. R/T's came with the famous (or infamous, depending on who you ask, lol) "tick-tock-tach" which you see close-up shots of occasionally in the original show. I notice that car has an aftermarket (Hurst?) shifter as well. Interestingly, 1969 Charger R/T 4 speed (Chrysler/New Process A-833 transmission) cars came with a Hurst shifter mechanism stock from the factory, though 68's came with a crappy Inland shifter mechanism. I have no idea why the pictures won't post for you in the thread; you typed it out correctly. In fact; copy and pasting exactly what you typed works for me: And (again, copy and pasting your own text): I notice the car that the child is sitting in has a full rollcage (8 point?); do all of them have that? Also, is it a real rollcage (i.e. made from chromoly tubing rather than exhaust tubing like most of the ones from the original show)? If so; that is very cool. General Lee #1 had a real full 'cage.

That new "Charger" = ugly as homemade shoes.

Yeah, that works. Nice quality picture BTW. If you want the picture to show up in the post itself you enclose the URL in IMG tags, like this: [img=http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Scott225/flipped11.jpg] Which results in this: That all seems fine, except for the oversized tachometer. That is far to "ricerish" (is that a word?) for my tastes. I'm not real big on any aftermarket steering wheels either; a little too J.C. Whitneyish (another homemade word I guess). R/T cars came with a nice looking 3 spoke steering wheel stock; that is what they should have used IMO. I have always hated RWL tires too. Plus I like the tire/wheel size combination on the original General Lees (235/70/14 on 14x7 wheels) a lot better than what they have on the Generals for this movie. The wheel/tire combination on the original Generals had a similar overall height to the wheel/tires on these new Generals but it was more evenly split between the height of the wheel and the height of the tire; making them not even remotely close to looking like "low profile" tires. Here is a screenshot of a closeup of the tires/wheels on one of the original Georgia Generals: At least they still have CB's. Did they use any '68 Chargers? The original show did the same thing with the side marker lights on a lot of the General Lees; which concealed the different side marker lights found on '68's. Just as a point of interest; Chrysler found a loophole in '69 which allowed them to not have any side marker lights at all. The ones that you see on '69 Chargers are not functional lights; they are simply reflectors. The little round ones on 68's are functional though.

I posted about this same question on another thread, I'll repeat it here: The chrome trim around the base of the C-pillar came on Chargers originally equipped with a vinyl top (a lot of them came that way new). It visually separated the vinyl top from the rest of the body. Cars that came with no vinyl top did not have those trim pieces (or the mounting holes for them of course). Since it is easier to just put the trim pieces back on than it is to fill the mounting holes in the body, they appeared on a lot of General Lee's. The few General Lees that didn't have the chrome trim around the base of the C-pillars were cars that originally came with no vinyl top. I notice that none of the General Lees for the new movie that I have seen have that trim piece; which is a good idea IMO since it was never intended to be on cars with no vinyl top in the first place. From what I have seen of this upcoming movie, they seem to be a lot bigger on continuity than the old show was. Also, about that checkered flag on the rear deck, it was in more than just episode 1. It was also in episode 5 (High-Octane). It is on that weird General Lee that doesn't have a push bumper, a dented center piece on the grill and a headlight door stuck open so you see the headlights. When Rosco and the revenuer woman look out the window of their office down at the General Lee you can see the crossed flags on the car.

The chrome trim around the base of the C-pillar came on Chargers originally equipped with a vinyl top (a lot of them came that way new). It visually separated the vinyl top from the rest of the body. Cars that came with no vinyl top did not have those trim pieces (or the mounting holes for them of course). Since it is easier to just put the trim pieces back on than it is to fill the mounting holes in the body, they appeared on a lot of General Lee's. The few General Lees that didn't have the chrome trim around the base of the C-pillars were cars that originally came with no vinyl top. I notice that none of the General Lees for the new movie that I have seen have that trim piece; which is a good idea IMO since it was never intended to be on cars with no vinyl top in the first place. From what I have seen of this upcoming movie, they seem to be a lot bigger on continuity than the old show was.