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MonacoMan

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  1. This is one of my favorites, of Season 7…ultimately being the season premiere! I remember watching this when it originally aired! :D

    I love the flashbacks, and seeing things from 8 years before…Boss was thinner (ol’ Sorrell finally got to do an episode without the fat suit :-P), Rosco has this ridiculous mustache :lol:, and Uncle Jesse wore this fedora type hat instead of his trademark red ball cap.

    However, there were some definite inconsistencies & inaccuracies. First, the Charger that eventually became General Lee was referred to as a “68 coupe”, by a junk dealer. Not only was the General a 69 (as we all know), but the black Charger used (before it supposedly was turned into GL) was definitely a 69 model as well.

    Not only that, but ‘Luke Duke’ (Tom Wopat) directed this episode! So, he should have definitely realized this inaccuracy in the script?? :wacko:

    Then, when testing out the General, Bo & Luke supposedly first make the famous river jump (seen in the opening credits from Season 2 on)…however, they actually first made that jump in Season 2, which was sometime in late 1979 or early 1980, not 1976—the past. 

    Next, since most of this episode takes place in 1976, Uncle Jesse’s truck would have only been a couple/few years old…but it looks to be just as beat up & dirty as if it was 20 years old.

    Finally, again this is supposed to be 1976 (8 years before), but Boss Hogg’s Hogg Hellcat race car was anywhere from a 1979-1982 or 83 Chevy Malibu.

    I know these are not detrimental mistakes, and do not hurt the plot. :wink:  But, for someone who loves cars, I notice things like these. :spin: However, the wrong 1968 reference to the General does irk me when I watch this one, lol! :cornfused:

  2. 1 hour ago, RogerDuke said:

    The way I see it: Everything that exists in your mind exists....otherwise you wouldn't have used the word "exists" to begin with. Conclusion: Hazzard is real. 

    To an extent, yes. The “idea” of Hazzard exists in a way, or our “desire” for a Hazzard-like place to exist. But, just because we want it to exist, doesn’t mean it does. :wink:

    That’s why shows like DOH were & are so popular…because the real world is a lot of cruelty, selfishness, perversion, corruption, evil, etc… In the escape of fantasy entertainment, in places like Hazzard, those things don’t exist on a regular basis…and when they try to infiltrate, they are dealt with swiftly & squelched. :banana:

    We all (or most of us) want that…but like it or not, that’s not reality (as a whole). However, we can take the examples set forth in say DOH, and try to put them to use in our real lives as well, as much as we can.

    But, like Oz, Mayberry, Hilldale, and the Brady household…Hazzard is a fantasy place that we all wished existed. That’s why entertainment is so popular…it provides one of the “earthly” enjoyable escapes from the harshness of reality. :tup:

  3. By all means neither Peggy Rea, nor Sorrell Booke, were thin or skinny people. :wink: But, I’ve seen both on many other things, before & after “Dukes”.

    We all know Sorrell wore a fat suit, as he wasn’t as obese as his character of Boss Hogg. Looking at Peggy in some other things, yes she was heavy…but she was no where near what her character of Lulu was on “Dukes”. :spin:

    I’m thinking she wore a fat suit as well…to exaggerate her weight, just like Boss. Part of the show’s & Hazzard’s charm was everyone & everything was overly exaggerated. :lol: It was fun, entertaining, and created a place you truly wished existed. :tup:

  4. On 2/4/2024 at 4:09 PM, Hobie Hartkins said:

    I think one of ....if not my fav. episode, is Two Too Many Roscos.......Whatever anybody here thinks is THE best or what they think about the Alien one, we can ALL agree, this one was ONE of the best anyway! 

    It’s actually “Too Many Roscos”…but, yeah it was a good one! :tup:

  5. 43 minutes ago, RogerDuke said:

    True but any actor could have played a greedy old man. I just didn't get why they didn't find someone who looked more like Boss. 

    Agreed! Or, this guy could have been some half-brother, or a distant cousin, or an uncle, etc… But, to me he still came across closer to Boss’ age, rather than old enough to supposedly be Boss’ father. 

  6. 4 hours ago, HossC said:

    There is nearly 17 years between the ages of Les Tremayne and Sorrell Booke, so on paper the relationship is just about possible, but I'll agree that the gap looks less. Memorably, Sean Connery played Harrison Ford's father in 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' despite there being slightly less than 12 years between them, but somehow that relationship seemed more believable. I'm sure there are many more examples. Incidentally, I've just realized that Sorrell Booke and Sean Connery were both born in 1930, but I can't imagine them swapping roles!

    Regarding Big Daddy and Boss' momma, as the show went on, I don't think much emphasis was placed on a sticking to a consistent backstory or canon. This obviously went completely out of the window in the 2007 movie when they find the car that would become the General Lee at the bottom of a lake, ignoring the storyline of 'Happy Birthday, General Lee'.

    There are many examples of certain actors playing the parent of another, and in reality they’re not old enough. Barbara Bel Geddes played ‘Miss Ellie’, Larry Hagman’s (J.R.’s) mother on Dallas…but, in reality there was only 9 years difference in their ages. :o

    It just seemed unrealistic (even for “Dukes”) to have Boss Hogg’s dad still alive & that ‘able’. The way they played it, he should have been some other half-brother or something, that was only 5-6 years older than Boss. :yeahthat:

    I know not a lot of emphasis towards continuity was utilized, but they’d already shown Boss’ mother a few times in the portrait he had, and referred to her with the ashes in the trophy episode…and they never re-shown her in any way, looking like someone or something else. So, the idea of ‘Big Daddy’ getting with her was ridiculous.

    It just seems to me that when Bo & Luke left, and ratings started going down hill, the writers started dropping the proverbial ball, and were not caring as much either. :unsure:

    I don’t count the 2007 movie, or any so-called “Dukes” things outside the original show & cast. In my opinion any of those are just raunchy rip-offs or pathetic wannabes. :wink:

  7. I’m sorry, but I’ve always thought it was unrealistic & strange that Boss Hogg’s dad is #1: still alive, but #2: he basically looks to be barely a few years older than Boss. :blink:

    Also, he doesn’t look like the kind of man who would have gotten with Boss’ momma, under any circumstances :-P—going by what we know she looked like, with her portrait Boss has (just sayin’). :wink:

  8. 1 hour ago, HossC said:

    According to IMDb, Michele Greene was born in 1962, so she was only 19 or 20 when she filmed this episode. It's not unusual to use older actors. From that era, John Travolta was 23 and Olivia Newton-John was 28/29 when they played 18-year-olds in 'Grease' and Michael J Fox was around 24 when he played 17-year-old Marty McFly in 'Back to the Future'.

    When I get a chance to watch Dukes (it's been a while now), I watch through all the episodes in order. It's always a bit jarring when Coy and Vance appear, but after a few episodes I just take it as a parallel storyline. I'm normally just about getting used to Coy and Vance when they leave.

    I realize & know that older actors many times portrayed younger roles…especially back then. Michele Greene, as much as I loved her on L.A. Law, just looked 24-27 on the Dukes episode, to me. She looked ridiculous running around in the WOZ get-up…”and with her little dog, too!” :cornfused: Nothing against her personally, I’ve always liked her…it was the episode itself.

    I don’t really care for the “alternate cousins” episodes…but, once every few years I’ll watch a few when going through the show again. I do remember watching them as a kid, when they originally aired. The fools-gold (“Dukes Strike It Rich”, I think) episode is probably my favorite of their tenure on the series.

    But, the whole thing has just a disaster. It should never have been done. It was amazing when Bo & Luke returned! :tup:

  9. 27 minutes ago, Garrett Duke said:

    I totally agree. Though I didn't watch it until it was a rerun in the late 90s sometime. I don't think I've seen it since then. I do love the other cast, but it's not the same without Bo and Luke. And no one other than Bo and Luke should be driving the General Lee. LOL. I feel like that is how it goes in a lot of places where everyone tells the higher ups how it shouldn't be and then they don't listen, and it lands it their faces. Sad it happens like that.  At least it onl.y lasted a season and Bo and Luke returned.

    Though if we are going to question the writer's abilities here...what about "Strange Visitor in Hazzard"? That is one Bo and Luke episode I can't do or will ever understand. LOL 

    The alien episode is the WORST episode of the show…unbelievably stupid! :crazy: Dukes was not a show where that kind of sci-fi crap belonged! :duh: Definitely probably the most embarrassing aspect of the show. 

  10. 2 minutes ago, Garrett Duke said:

    I think I've only watched that season once and that was enough. It wasn't the actors' fault...if they got characters that weren't suppose to resemble Bo and Luke and try to have them act like them...but had cousins who were their own person with their own characteristics and looks, it probably would have been easier to accept. Still not Bo and Luke, but better than trying to copy them as if fans wouldn't know the difference. Sad for the actors who were placed in that role...but I also felt they didn't do that well of a job either as they always seemed to be reading off their lines. But they did what they had to do to get through it. It was definitely a great breath of fresh air when Bo and Luke returned from the circuit. :)

    I actually did watch most of those episodes when they originally aired, as a kid…as I was so upset about Bo & Luke leaving, but I still loved the rest of the cast & the General Lee. However, since then I’ve only watched them once—when Season 5 was first released to DVD.

    I’m currently going through the show again, and decided to watch the entire thing this time. I fully agree, that their acting & deliverance of lines was not great either…but, they tried to do what was asked & expected of them.

    Gy Waldron also said though, that everyone tried to tell Warner Bros. & CBS to not try and literally copy Bo & Luke. They were too “cemented” in everyone’s minds, and you couldn’t just replace them. The new cousins needed to be their own new thing.

    But, as usual the studio, network, and execs refused to listen (typical admin). :roll: They think they know everything, but in reality don’t have a clue. The only changes were…the dark headed one (Vance) wore the yellow shirt & the blonde one (Coy) wore the blue shirt.

    It was a sad time for DOH…but, somehow it got worked out, as I will never forget watching the episode when Bo & Luke return…one of the happiest moments of my childhood, lol, and one of my favorite episodes! :banana: 

  11. I’ve never been a huge fan of the Coy & Vance episodes…nothing against Byron Cherry or the late Christopher Mayer, they did the best they could with what the situation was.

    But, they were just sadly part of one of the dumbest & worst decisions Warner Bros. television & CBS ever made. And, I’m sorry but…even their “yee haws!” were cringe-worthy. :wacko:

    However, one episode of their 19 episode-run on the show really makes me shake my head…”Coy Meets Girl”. It guest stars a young Michele Greene, who just a few years later got her stardom as ‘Abigail Perkins’ on the legal drama L.A. Law.

    But, Greene looks 25 when I think she’s supposed to be around 16 in the episode, and the whole thing has a ridiculous rip-off of The Wizard of Oz vibe…with Greene running around in her ‘Dorothy’ dress, braided pig tails, and little dog companion—while the ’Wicked Witches’ of Hazzard (aka Boss & the hijackers) are out to get her. :roll:

    Sorry, but this was not the writers best effort for sure…even during the Coy & Vance time. :blink:

  12. 11 minutes ago, RogerDuke said:

    I agree. I wish she would have come back for more episodes. I wished that about a lot of people. I'm glad Cale came back but sure would have loved to see Loretta again. 

    Definitely…another Loretta episode would have been awesome! An episode focusing on the Oak Ridge Boys (besides their cameo singing) would have been cool, too! A Dolly Parton based episode would have been hilarious & awesome, too in my opinion. But, that’s just me. :)

  13. 5 hours ago, RogerDuke said:

    There is no way Emma Tisdale would have sat back and done nothing if Lucinda would have tried to get Jesse to marry her. Emma would have fought for her man. LOL 

    This episode contains my all time favorite quote in all 7 years of Dukes and it is by Lucinda. "Well, I put myself in the hands of the Lord and He put me in the hands of the Dukes and I guess maybe you couldn't get a better combination than that."

    You’re kind of freaking me out, but in a good way, lol! :lol: I literally was thinking that the other night when I was watching again…that Lucinda’s quote just about summed it all up! :yeahthat: I literally yelled out “Amen, Lucinda!” when she said it (although I’ve watched this episode many times before)—fully agree, definitely the best quote in the entire series! :tup:

    But, although I loved the character of Miss Emma “Emmer” Tisdale…she never stood a chance with Uncle Jesse. He cared about her as a fellow born-n-bred Hazzard-ite & as a friend…but he wasn’t in love with her (even though she was with him).

    But, I could totally see Jesse ending up with Lucinda at some point. He did love her, and you could definitely tell there was something between them. :wub:

  14. I watched Season 3’s “The Legacy” again tonight. I’ve always enjoyed this episode…from when I watched it as a child, when it originally aired…to all the times since.

    I even enjoy Lucinda’s big ol’ red 1965 Chrysler Imperial Crown convertible—after Cooter fixed her brakes! :cornfused: But, I really enjoyed actress Jan Clayton’s portrayal of Uncle Jesse’s (and Boss Hogg’s) old flame…Lucinda Meadows.

    She was was right in-there with the old ridge-runners, and held her own…even after knowing her late husband had been a terrible moonshiner, lol! :spittake::lol:

    I actually wish they’d of brought her character back a few more times over the years…and then actually have her & Uncle Jesse finally decide to get hitched  at the end of the show. But…that’s just me. :wink: 

  15. 31 minutes ago, Hobie Hartkins said:

    Yes, and I did! I was 14 when they first came on. 

    Lol, I was a few years younger, but l still remember watching when the show originally aired! I was so angry when it went off the air...and just a year later, so did Knight Rider. :cry: I was devastated...but first came the beauty of reruns for both shows, and eventually home video sets! I can now forever enjoy both shows whenever I want. :tup:

  16. 1 hour ago, Hobie Hartkins said:

    Through the power of TDOH,  they stay the same and the way they make you feel,  when you watch them  is always the same to! So...in a way, it keeps us all the same! :) 

    Exactly...the memories are forever captured on screen & for us to forever enjoy! :) But, we do have to live in reality sometimes, even when we don’t want to or it’s painful. However, we’ll always have the memories to cherish, and know & be grateful for what once was—especially if you got to experience them firsthand & when they originally impacted us. :D

  17. 3 hours ago, RogerDuke said:

    It's so tough to see people pass on. I look at Dukes stars like family and if one who was only on a single episode for a few minutes dies, it saddens me.....like people Rosco caught in the celebrity speedtrap, for example. 

    I know...I want those people to remain the ages at the time of DOH, but we all get older & no one lives forever. 

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