P.J. Gathergood

Hi folks, My first time in a LOOONG time posting on the forum, and a lot of great photos to get through, but a couple of points I've picked up on from a quick browse this evening (I'll keep it to just two as I'm still remembering how to quote without losing what I'm writing!) Although an old post, this above photo, taken from the filming of s2's "Road Pirates", actually relates to an incident on-set that John Schneider has recounted several times, including in a video that is available on YouTube. (By the way, shots from this episode are fairly easy to identify as Bo wears his blue t-shirt with no cream shirt over it for the whole episode, quite a rarity). Bo and Luke were handcuffed to Cletus (filling in for the absent Enos) and running down the street, where they were to do a routine where Cletus, cuffed to them both, was to get caught up on a lamppost. As Rick Hurst hit the lamppost, the glass top on the lamppost - which had not been attached properly - came crashing down, hitting John! This shot seems to have been taken moments afterwards, where John has just picked it up. I'd imagine the footage does or did, exist as an out-take at one point. I've heard the story told longer in whatever interview, but it is briefly referenced in this video - My other note for the time being is on several shots of Waylon Jennings on the set (I'm not gonna try and find and attach them from the thread - quoting stuff and not losing what I'm writing I'm still remembering how to do!) Invariably these shots get attributed to s7's "Welcome, Waylon Jennings", but several of them are visibly from earlier in the show's run. In at least one of them, Luke is wearing a plain blue shirt (which he only wore during s2), and it is also evident from John's hair - his different hairstyle in s7 makes it actually fairly easy to identify shots from s7 episodes, but in these shot with Waylon, his hair is in an earlier circa-s2 style. I'd imagine that Waylon would visit the set once in a while if in the area, even if he didn't appear on-screen until "Welcome, Waylon Jennings". That is all for now. Apologies for suddenly commenting on such old posts, but hope at least some of that is of interest.

Hi folks, My first time on the forum in a LONG time (in fact, I've just spent two hours trying to remember which email I used so I could access my old account). One of my goals is to post MUCH more regularly this year, but for now... It's a key date for U.K. fans such as myself... as Sat 3rd March 1979 marked the first time 'The Dukes of Hazzard' was ever broadcast in the United Kingdom! My all-time favourite TV series, that shaped myself, my interests and my character in so many ways. Literally my first memories in life are sitting on my father's knee watching the series (he watched it religiously every week, on the excuse that "he (meaning me) likes it")! BBC1 showed the first four episodes in a Saturday 9 p.m. slot, before a brief break and resuming a month or so later with episode 5, "High Octane" on Mondays at 7:20 p.m. (a year or two later it would move again to it's early Saturday evening slot where the series would enjoy it's highest U.K. viewing figures). Although I'm pretty certain I would have been tucked up in bed for those first four episode (I would have been 1 year old at the time), I'm pretty certain that by some of those earliest Monday broadcasts I would have been sat on my Dad's knee watching it all. Last year I pieced together the original U.K. broadcast history and order for the series (I might share it on the forum at some point actually), just to see what was shown in what order... and to try and piece together my very earliest memories; it was actually quite therapeutic. For those of us that were there originally (even us who can barely remember it), we were very lucky. Will never see the likes of such a TV series again.

Hope this might make for an interesting thread for the more hardcore 'nit picker' fans (a dedicated group of which I proudly consider myself to be!) As we know, continuity from episode to episode in the Dukes was (sadly) fairly rare. After each average episode was over, the reset button was effectively pressed; things seldom affected future episodes* and there is rarely reference back to events of specific previous episodes. But there are a few exceptions, and I thought it would be fun to gather them. (* obvious exceptions, such as Daisy's Plymouth being replaced with a jeep (confused with jumbled broadcast order), Enos leaving/returning, Bo and Luke leaving/returning, etc.) I got thinking about this when watching s4's "Birds Gotta Fly" on DVD tonight on a whim; one of my lesser favourite episodes so not watched as often, I had forgotten that towards the end, when Rosco and Boss try to escape in Rosco's patrol car and the General Lee gives chase, the Balladeer comments "For y'all with long memories, the first time you ever saw the General Lee, it was chasing a police car" - A rare instance of a reference to a very specific moment in a previous episode (the very first scene in "One Armed Bandits"). I can think of a few other notable instances, but though I'd let others see what they can come up with first.

That's an interesting thing to consider. It's interesting, though. The role of Uncle Jesse in the series always felt to be of a no-determined-age "wise old man". When I was in my youth, I always imagined Jesse to be somewhere in his sixties. Either way, if the Dukes ever got resurrected as a sort of "new generation crossover" show (which, sadly seems the strongest option now that so many of the cast are aging or passing away), you reckon John could effectively be the new 'wise old Uncle'. This would be an interesting twist considering Bo was typically the more hot-headed Duke; Luke was always the thinker and the planner. Personally in such a show, I think "Aunt Daisy" would work well!

Hi folks, I haven't been on the forum much in recent months (as I've mentioned previously, I work and often live on the canal, so often don't have regular internet, and am always on the move to bother about it much anyway - in fact, I don't even own a TV now). But just had to pitch in and say what a shame we lost James Best, and relatively suddenly, too. The day the news broke, I had rode up the canal into Camden Market in London (a 40-mile odd round trip). Ironically it was my Dad who text to tell me (""Rosco P. Coltrane has died"), after he heard it on the news. Sadly most of my family members are now gone and things with my parents aren't too great, but sitting with my Dad watching "Dukes" with my Dad each week is actually my first memory in life, so the fact that it was my Dad that, despite all differences, messaged to tell me, still from that early bond of watching Dukes all those years ago... I hope that would have somehow meant something to Jimmy. I have had a little "Best of Rosco" mini-marathon, with "Mrs. Rosco P. Coltrane", "Coltrane Vs. Duke" and "Too Many Roscos" (guess I could have had "10 Million Dollar Sheriff" too, but always found that a bit awkwardly paced in parts due to the double length format). Anybody else done similar? BTW, with Best's passing, am I alone in having a little bit of my heart sink, where I'd been hoping there might be one last 'Dukes' reunion. Of course, we lost Sorrel Booke and Denver Pyle some years ago, but with James Best gone, there would seem little point in a reunion any more, the core element of "the Sheriff chasing the Duke boys" is now gone.

Like a number of things, the "rules" of the Duke boy's probation varied from episode to episode. Sometimes it was implied they'd be arrested for crossing the county line, other times it was suggested that they could cross it if back within a certain time limit. And just how they managed to leave Hazzard to tour the NASCAR circuit in the fifth season never really was explained at all. By the last couple of seasons, the probation scenario was often dropped into the background and forgotten much of the time, though came into play again in other episodes. Likewise, just what Boss was and wasn't capable of sometimes varied as that week's plot dictated, and other plot elements at the start of the series faded away, such as Rosco being cheated out of his pension and having two years left in office to grab all he could, hence turning corrupt; this theme was pretty much gone by the end of the first season, and Rosco was still serving as Hazzard sheriff years later.

Well, the story has a happy outcome, as basically it gave the Police bad coverage and they dropped the case - http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/11385861.Illegal_air_horn_charge_dropped_against__Dukes_of_Hazzard__driver_Wayne/ It really could be one of Boss and Rosco's plans from a typical episode, couldn't it! (Even the above article suggests similar) I think the car would have got off on a technicality anyway, as it is old enough to legally be exempt from the law, but even so the Police made themselves look ridiculous on this matter so eventually dropped it. Yes I thought that too, Roth, surprised the coverage never picked up on that. I'm assuming it's his actual surname and he hasn't changed it out of Duke-loving. Oh and Hobie, I often wear Bo's traditional colours (in fact I have them under my jacket in that picture!) though I look groggy in that picture after having just walked 20-odd miles; hair's been cut too since then. I sometimes do little videoblogs on places of local history and sometimes wear the same 'Bo colours' as an in-reference for other fans! Anyway, back on topic...

Hey gang. Barely on the forums at the moment as Summer is my busy season, but I just had to share this. This story is both amusing (as in, it could be straight out of an episode, could imagine Boss and Rosco planning it!) and annoying, how how U.K. Police can waste time on something so trivial and yet ignore many bigger real crimes. Basically, a General Lee was carrying newlyweds in Dorset, U.K., when the drive, a Wayne Duke (yes, really) sounded the Dixie horn twice, and the Police promptly pulled them over from breaking the law! Can almost imagine the officer having Flash in the passenger seat! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2708615/Newlyweds-way-wedding-reception-Duke-Hazzard-replica-Dodge-Charger-pulled-police-driver-sounds-illegal-Dixie-horn.html (sadly the above link is from the Daily Mail, famous in the U.K. for it's rather stereotypical views, but that's another discussion for another website!) http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/11371522.Newlyweds_get_stopped_by_the_police_over_wedding_car_horn/

Hi Gang, Been away from the forum for a month or two - been canal festival season, which is busy for me, and means even less web access. Either way, whist I'm away, the Dukes have been at play with the new Autotrader commercial. I was quietly amused at the numerous continuity errors (I spotted the disappearing roll cage straight away) but in a bizarre way it was in keeping with the TV show, where details of the General would not only vary between episodes, but sometimes within the same episode. Little touches such as "Daisy's Denim Depot" (which HossC has already covered) were really nice. It did stand out to me that Luke did refer to the General Lee just as "our old friend here". Maybe this was just innocent dialogue, but it felt strange not referencing the car by name. Part of me wondered if it was some sort of copyright loophole, but also I wondered if it was to do with playing down the whole confederate flag element. ...Which leads me onto the flag (or lack of). Sadly it didn't surprise me that the flag wasn't seen. Yes we all know the arguments for (and against) it being present on the General, but in fairness maybe it wasn't down to an innocent little Autotrader commercial to take sides on the argument. Either way, does anyone know if the flag actually was on the roof of any of the Generals used and simply filmed so it wasn't seen, or were there no flags present? Another thing that stood out to me was how John and Tom played their characters. 35 years later and they still slip into them so easily. Though I did feel that parts of the commercial, especially with Bo tossing Luke's phone at the detour sign, and his laughter afterwards, were almost played in a "2005 movie" style (shudder). I wonder if this was deliberate intention, or just the mood of the commercial. For anyone who hasn't done so yet (especially us overseas fans who won't see it broadcast on TV), I'd recommend folk check both the 'mini-movie' and individual segments versions on YouTube, as the editing, pacing and various shots is different between the two. Also look up the behind the scenes video, which is good. I'm sure I wasn't alone when seeing it, that it was a perfect example that a new mini series of some sort could be made. With the digital age we're in, it could even be produced for on-line (which is generally more liberal than TV so might also help avoid the whole flag debate which I feel his limited previous options of a revival). Sadly Denver Pyle, Sorrel Booke and various recurring performers are no longer with us, but enough of the original cast are still about (and very willing) for a new mini series (of full length episodes) to be an option, even if that does include bringing some new cast members to share the load slightly.

Can't say I've ever noticed this. The episode you mention, season one's "The Big Heist", does indeed mention Bo getting new boots which don't fit very well, which causes him to limp his way through the episode, but I don't think the point was ever continued beyond that episode. Maybe John was just acting "in character".

Very true about Cletus, Hoss, I forgot to include that one Cooter did indeed get through the caps (and tshirts); as with Rosco's hats this is one I'll have to go into in more detail in some point One key thing I meant to include in my list, but somehow forgot, was Bo's hair. In the final season, John Schneider had a slightly different hairstyle - less bushy at the sides, and with his parting on the other side of his head, making it pretty easy to tell if a shot of Bo is from season 7,

D'oh - my above post was intended for the Rare and Behind the Scenes photo thread (just copied it over accordingly). Though in an odd way it does kinda fit here as well. Kinda.

This is a VERY rough guide, but here are a few notes to go by to narrow down when a photo was taken. Luke ----- In the first season, Luke wears a blue and white plaid shirt with a denim jacket over it, and has longer hair. For much of the second season, he wears a plain mid-blue shirt, and has somewhat shorter hair; in the latter half of the second season, he returns to his first season shirt and jacket. In the third season, he returns to wearing a blue and white plaid shirt, but of lighter tones than his other versions; his hair is slightly longer. In the fourth season his hair is longer, closely resembling it's first season length, and his plaid shirt is of a bolder blue, with whites and blacks, and different versions of this shirt would be worn for the rest of his run. When Luke and Bo return after leaving for most of the fifth season, his hair is generally mid-length. In very early publicity shots, Luke wears a plain blue shirt similar to his second season one, a blue plaid one as he is seen wearing in the third season, and another plaid shirt with more red colouring (though this is not overly evident to the more casual eye). In many of these early publicity shots, the character wears a grey cowboy hat. Bo ----- For the first three seasons, Bo wears a blue t-shirt under his shirt, until it is phased out later in the third season. (In the pilot, "One Armed Bandits", his t-shirt is brown). In the first and second season, his shirt is a strong yellow colour (although the hue varies in different episodes). In the first couple of Georgia episodes, Bo hair is much longer, before being cut slightly shorter. Second season Bo is distinguishable for his increasingly long sideburns! For the third and fourth season, his shirt is lighter, varying from pale yellow to cream in various episodes. In many fourth season episodes (and a few third), although still blonde, Bo's hair has a slightly more brown-y tint to it. When Bo and Luke return from their absence in the fifth season, the character's shirt is of a more sandy tone, and later variants of this shirt until the end of the series continue this, being more yellowy on some occasions, and almost a grey hue at other times. Bo famously breaks his usual costume tradition for much of the second filmed/broadcast episode, "Daisy's Song", where he wears a red shirt. For a couple of scenes in the fifth episode, "High Octane", he wears a light blue shirt. In very early publicity shots, many of the images show Bo to be wearing a dark blue shirt, which he never wore on-screen, and a brown / black cowboy hat; other shots show him to be wearing his standard yellow shirt. In both of these shirts, complete with cowboy hat, the character also wears jewellery around his neck and on his wrist. Daisy ----- Daisy wore the most variety of clothing in the series, and due to the sheer amount of costumes she wore, dating photos of her is often a tricky task (I'll leave others who have researched for various outfits in more detail to expand on this). In the first season, her hair is dark and straighter, and this generally continues into the second season. By the third season, it is more styled and buoyant. Over the third and into the fourth season, it has more blonde tones and highlights. Uncle Jesse ----- In the first season, his top under his shirt is white (also possibly in the first one or two produced episodes of the second season, "The Rustlers" and "The Meeting", I'll have to check on this). Thereafter, this "undertop" was either salmon or red, depending on the episode. In the Georgia episodes, he did not wear his red cap, instead often wearing a trilby when he went into town (note that this hat also appeared in s7's 'flashback' episode, "Happy Birthday, General Lee"). Additionally, in the fourth episode produced (third broadcast), "Mary Kaye's Baby", he wore a red and black checked overshirt. His dungarees were originally of a strong denim blue colour, which gradually lightened over the seasons. By the fourth season or so, it was a mid-blue, lightening further in the fifth season, and by the final two seasons, the dungarees were much lighter, pale blue, almost white on occasion. Jesse's hair and beard at the start of the series are shorter, and in the very first couple of Georgia episodes, have the last traces of colour in. As the seasons pass, particularly through the third and fourth season, his hair and beard (by now white) get noticably longer. Enos ----- Dating photos of Enos can be tricky as he was seldom seen out of uniform. If he is seen wearing his black Police jacket, this is very likely from the first two seasons, as both himself and Rosco very seldom wore them after that (though this can also cause confusion as he wore virtually identical jacket in spin-off "Enos"). Cletus ----- Like Enos, the character didn't often appear out of uniform. After his first two small appearances, in s1's "Money to Burn" (in bank driver's uniform) and s2's "The Rustlers" (in casual dress), the character was temporary Deputy in s2's "The Meeting" and "Road Pirates" (where he wore the black Police jacket), chances are most images of the character are, obviously, from the third or fourth season. Cooter ----- After Daisy, Cooter wore the most number of different costumes on the show. The best way to narrow down dating a photo with him in, his by his beard and hair length. At the start of the series, he was unshaven, but over the course of the first season and into the second season, he grew a full beard (which was the reason for him briefly leaving during the second season, over how unshaven the character was to be). From the third season onwards, the character was clean shaven (though in the first episode produced for the third season, "Baa, Baa White Sheep", the character spots a full beard, the thickest it is ever seen in the series). In the first season and occasionally in the second season, the character wore a blue denim jacket. Very occasionally in later season episodes he would also wear such a jacket In several early episodes, he also wears a jacket with signatures over it (cast, and I think also some racing drivers). This jacket was reportedly stolen from set shortly after the move to California, which is why the jacket was no longer seen. From his longer, shaggy hair in seasons one and two, the character still has longish hair in seasons three and four, or though more well kept. For seasons 5-7, his hair is shorter and more well kept. Rosco ----- Although usually seen in Police uniform, there are various tell-tale signs of the season. In the original Georgia episodes, the peak on the characters hat was slightly smaller. After the "standard" version after that until the end of season four, a slightly different shaped peak was used in season five, in seasons six and seven it had a slightly more "triangular" peak, coming to more of a soft "point" at the front. His shirt also goes from mid-blue at the start of the series, to much lighter from the fifth season onwards. (Rosco is the one character that I'll have to double-check in more depth and clarify with pictures). Boss Hogg ----- Boss is arguably the hardest character to date in photos, as he generally appeared in the same costume, with little obvious variation to his standard outfit. The biggest pointer is the character's hair. At the start of the series, it was grey. By the third and into the fourth season, it was much longer, and slightly lighter. In the last couple of seasons, his hair was much lighter, almost white (both as Boss lost his hair colour, and maybe also in keeping with his white outfit). Coy and Vance ----- Obviously, due to them only appearing for seventeen episodes, it's much easier when identifying the details of Coy and Vance photos. However, to note is that in the original publicity shoot to promote the new Duke characters, Coy wears a cream shirt as does blonde counterpart Bo, while Vance wears a blue plaid shirt a la Luke. On-screen, the characters actually only wore these costumes in the first episode they filmed - "Dukes Strike it Rich" (and for most of that one, the Dukes wore 'rich' clothing). In all others, their shirt colours were swapped over - Vance wore a Bo-style cream shirt, and Coy wore a light blue shirt, similar to the one that Luke wore for much of the second season (I always laughed to myself that this lame ploy was to convince viewers that these Bo and Luke clones were actully "different"!!) Hope these notes are of vague use to fellow Dukes photo fans.

This is a VERY rough guide, but here are a few notes to go by to narrow down when a photo was taken. Luke ----- In the first season, Luke wears a blue and white plaid shirt with a denim jacket over it, and has longer hair. For much of the second season, he wears a plain mid-blue shirt, and has somewhat shorter hair; in the latter half of the second season, he returns to his first season shirt and jacket. In the third season, he returns to wearing a blue and white plaid shirt, but of lighter tones than his other versions; his hair is slightly longer. In the fourth season his hair is longer, closely resembling it's first season length, and his plaid shirt is of a bolder blue, with whites and blacks, and different versions of this shirt would be worn for the rest of his run. When Luke and Bo return after leaving for most of the fifth season, his hair is generally mid-length. In very early publicity shots, Luke wears a plain blue shirt similar to his second season one, a blue plaid one as he is seen wearing in the third season, and another plaid shirt with more red colouring (though this is not overly evident to the more casual eye). In many of these early publicity shots, the character wears a grey cowboy hat. Bo ----- For the first three seasons, Bo wears a blue t-shirt under his shirt, until it is phased out later in the third season. (In the pilot, "One Armed Bandits", his t-shirt is brown). In the first and second season, his shirt is a strong yellow colour (although the hue varies in different episodes). In the first couple of Georgia episodes, Bo hair is much longer, before being cut slightly shorter. Second season Bo is distinguishable for his increasingly long sideburns! For the third and fourth season, his shirt is lighter, varying from pale yellow to cream in various episodes. In many fourth season episodes (and a few third), although still blonde, Bo's hair has a slightly more brown-y tint to it. When Bo and Luke return from their absence in the fifth season, the character's shirt is of a more sandy tone, and later variants of this shirt until the end of the series continue this, being more yellowy on some occasions, and almost a grey hue at other times. Bo famously breaks his usual costume tradition for much of the second filmed/broadcast episode, "Daisy's Song", where he wears a red shirt. For a couple of scenes in the fifth episode, "High Octane", he wears a light blue shirt. In very early publicity shots, many of the images show Bo to be wearing a dark blue shirt, which he never wore on-screen, and a brown / black cowboy hat; other shots show him to be wearing his standard yellow shirt. In both of these shirts, complete with cowboy hat, the character also wears jewellery around his neck and on his wrist. Daisy ----- Daisy wore the most variety of clothing in the series, and due to the sheer amount of costumes she wore, dating photos of her is often a tricky task (I'll leave others who have researched for various outfits in more detail to expand on this). In the first season, her hair is dark and straighter, and this generally continues into the second season. By the third season, it is more styled and buoyant. Over the third and into the fourth season, it has more blonde tones and highlights. Uncle Jesse ----- In the first season, his top under his shirt is white (also possibly in the first one or two produced episodes of the second season, "The Rustlers" and "The Meeting", I'll have to check on this). Thereafter, this "undertop" was either salmon or red, depending on the episode. In the Georgia episodes, he did not wear his red cap, instead often wearing a trilby when he went into town (note that this hat also appeared in s7's 'flashback' episode, "Happy Birthday, General Lee"). Additionally, in the fourth episode produced (third broadcast), "Mary Kaye's Baby", he wore a red and black checked overshirt. His dungarees were originally of a strong denim blue colour, which gradually lightened over the seasons. By the fourth season or so, it was a mid-blue, lightening further in the fifth season, and by the final two seasons, the dungarees were much lighter, pale blue, almost white on occasion. Jesse's hair and beard at the start of the series are shorter, and in the very first couple of Georgia episodes, have the last traces of colour in. As the seasons pass, particularly through the third and fourth season, his hair and beard (by now white) get noticably longer. Enos ----- Dating photos of Enos can be tricky as he was seldom seen out of uniform. If he is seen wearing his black Police jacket, this is very likely from the first two seasons, as both himself and Rosco very seldom wore them after that (though this can also cause confusion as he wore virtually identical jacket in spin-off "Enos"). Cletus ----- Like Enos, the character didn't often appear out of uniform. After his first two small appearances, in s1's "Money to Burn" (in bank driver's uniform) and s2's "The Rustlers" (in casual dress), the character was temporary Deputy in s2's "The Meeting" and "Road Pirates" (where he wore the black Police jacket), chances are most images of the character are, obviously, from the third or fourth season. Cooter ----- After Daisy, Cooter wore the most number of different costumes on the show. The best way to narrow down dating a photo with him in, his by his beard and hair length. At the start of the series, he was unshaven, but over the course of the first season and into the second season, he grew a full beard (which was the reason for him briefly leaving during the second season, over how unshaven the character was to be). From the third season onwards, the character was clean shaven (though in the first episode produced for the third season, "Baa, Baa White Sheep", the character spots a full beard, the thickest it is ever seen in the series). In the first season and occasionally in the second season, the character wore a blue denim jacket. Very occasionally in later season episodes he would also wear such a jacket In several early episodes, he also wears a jacket with signatures over it (cast, and I think also some racing drivers). This jacket was reportedly stolen from set shortly after the move to California, which is why the jacket was no longer seen. From his longer, shaggy hair in seasons one and two, the character still has longish hair in seasons three and four, or though more well kept. For seasons 5-7, his hair is shorter and more well kept. Rosco ----- Although usually seen in Police uniform, there are various tell-tale signs of the season. In the original Georgia episodes, the peak on the characters hat was slightly smaller. After the "standard" version after that until the end of season four, a slightly different shaped peak was used in season five, in seasons six and seven it had a slightly more "triangular" peak, coming to more of a soft "point" at the front. His shirt also goes from mid-blue at the start of the series, to much lighter from the fifth season onwards. (Rosco is the one character that I'll have to double-check in more depth and clarify with pictures). Boss Hogg ----- Boss is arguably the hardest character to date in photos, as he generally appeared in the same costume, with little obvious variation to his standard outfit. The biggest pointer is the character's hair. At the start of the series, it was grey. By the third and into the fourth season, it was much longer, and slightly lighter. In the last couple of seasons, his hair was much lighter, almost white (both as Boss lost his hair colour, and maybe also in keeping with his white outfit). Coy and Vance ----- Obviously, due to them only appearing for seventeen episodes, it's much easier when identifying the details of Coy and Vance photos. However, to note is that in the original publicity shoot to promote the new Duke characters, Coy wears a cream shirt as does blonde counterpart Bo, while Vance wears a blue plaid shirt a la Luke. On-screen, the characters actually only wore these costumes in the first episode they filmed - "Dukes Strike it Rich" (and for most of that one, the Dukes wore 'rich' clothing). In all others, their shirt colours were swapped over - Vance wore a Bo-style cream shirt, and Coy wore a light blue shirt, similar to the one that Luke wore for much of the second season (I always laughed to myself that this lame ploy was to convince viewers that these Bo and Luke clones were actully "different"!!) Hope these notes are of vague use to fellow Dukes photo fans.

Howdy, Haven't been on-line much last week or so, but I'm still around I'll have to double-check "Mrs. Rosco P. Coltrane"; my memory is telling me that in a few close-ups or Rosco, the 'E' disappears and re-appears.

That's very kind of you I feel I'm on information overload at the moment, as I find these old threads and suddenly 30+ years of 'Dukes' analysing comes spilling out! My internet periods are sometimes patchy (I partly work/live on a boat so don't always have internet connection) but it's great to share the passion and swap stories with other such dedicated Dukes fans.

I thought as soon as I had posted that maybe it's not as common knowledge as it might seem Ben is the easiest to spot, he's right near the beginning of the film as the Enis brothers arrive at the fairground to see the Bandit. He has several lines and sports a huge moustache. I've seen Ben in an interview where he said it was during his alcoholic days (which he triumphantly beat by the time of 'Dukes'), where he rose from a hard night's "honkey tonkying", did the scene, went back to sleep, and awoke later dreaming that he had done a scene in a movie!

Great job as always, Hoss. For some years, a couple of movie fan friends and I knew that John Schneider was said to be in the film somewhere, but could never find him (hardly surprising ) One friend-of-a-friend insisted he was the blonde car thief from Sheriff Justice's first scene in the film, which it quite clearly wasn't.

I've always been intrigued by the one-off appearance by "(an)other Duke cousin", motorcycle riding Jeb Stuart Duke, played by Christopher Hensel, in season three's "Along Came a Duke". Odd that he would be introduced in such a way, never featured again, and in all my years collecting and writing about Dukes, I have never really found out the story behind the character. In my youth, part of me wondered if he had been introduced as a possible replacement for Bo should John Schneider ever leave - I vaguely recall an article with Schneider suggested that producers gave him a hard time after misleading them about his age when he auditioned and used to wonder if it related to that debate. Bare in mind this is all long before Schneider and Wopat left for the fifth season. At one stage Jeb might have been considered as a new recurring character - on the less common of the two Dukes 'Family Feud' episodes, Hensel appears as part of the team line up, with Rick Hurst (Cletus), Peggy Rea (Lulu), Lindsay Bloom (Maybelle the phone operator) and Jeff Altman (Hughie). But as this line-up (with all due respect to the actors) was hardly featuring the big stars of the series, unlike the other 'Family Feud' episode, maybe he just appeared in order to make up the team numbers. What does anyone else known about Jeb's appearance in "Along Came a Duke"?

No idea why the poll at the top is so hard to read - makes voting a bit awkward.

That's the one. I was getting my "Donald Duck's nephews" mixed up. I wonder if we would have ever met Louie Hogg

I almost explode with delight when I find these threads For so many years I've collected such bits of trivia, and finally have a place to share and exchange them. One of my favourite "real life things" is in the second episode, "Daisy's Song". Near the start, as Daisy's song finishes playing on the radio, The Balladeer comments that "..for those of you ignorant of good music, Jessi Colter is one of the world's greatest singers - 'though I'm partial to June Carter myself." Jessi Colter was of course, Waylon's wife. As an in joke, possibly in keeping with the risque humour of the first couple of episodes, June Carter was the wife of Waylon's friend and collaborator Johnny Cash. One of the fun things I loved spotting was the references to Burt Reynolds in the early episodes. In "One Armed Bandits", Luke comments that Burt Reynolds never seems to get lost, to which Bo responds "But he's got a moustache!"; and in "Repo Men", Cooter asks Luke what he thinks Burt Reynolds "would be doing at a time like this", to which Luke tells him whatever it was, it would be with someone better looking than Cooter! With 'Smokey and the Bandit' being a huge hit the previous year (and arguably helped the Dukes get on air), seems like they wanted to reference it quite a bit, and in my mind "Bandit" and "Dukes" have always inhabited the same universe! They certainly have similar adventures. ...'Course, Burt Reynolds would go on to play Boss Hogg in 2005's (terrible) Dukes film; not even Burt could save that mess! (I won't mention Ben Jones / Sonny Shroyer / John Schneider appearing in 'Smokey' as surely we all know that; John also appears as a Sheriff in one of the 1990s TV Bandit movies, too) But if you want "real stuff in Hazzard", look no futher than Jerry Rushing. He and his brother were the "original Duke boys" (Jerry claims he was the inspiration for Bo), had an Uncle Worley (spelling?) who became Uncle Jesse, and an attractive cousin who inspired Daisy. They used to hunt with crossbows, and their car was 'Traveler', named after General Lee's horse (also the name of the car in 'Moonrunners' and the name for what became the General Lee when the TV series was being conceived). Between himself and Waldron collaborating on the series, apparently the likes of Swamp Molly and similar from first season episodes were based on real people and events they had known. There has been contradiction over the years as to the original real life Boar's Nest. I've heard that Jerry (I think? Or was it Gy) claim that it was a place that they frequented; but I've also heard it cited as a music hangout that Waylon Jennings visited earlier in his career. Finally, trying to remember if my memory is playing tricks, or maybe it was a myth doing the rounds on early Dukes web sites - there is an episode (probably fourth season) where John Schneider can be seen wearing his wedding ring, having just previously got married. If memory serves, he left it on as a little hidden on-screen "easter egg" to his new wife. Anyone? Damn I gotta stop finding and catching up on these great threads, I have too much to contribute!!

This is a fun thread 'Though as far as I've ever made out, geography for the area was pretty much thrown together as plots dictated and writers made it up - certainly there are many generic but amusing road and location names that suddenly pop up as reference points in various episodes (my favourite, as I've mentioned previously in another thread, is "Waylon Corners" in s7's "Danger on the Hazzard Express"), and often contradicted in others. Either way, trying to piece together a map of Hazzard is great fun - even if it is along the lines of the famous "Trying to work out where Springfield is" debates of 'The Simpsons' One thing that always seemed evident to me was the changing of the Georgia connection. The original five episodes were of course filmed in Georgia, but (whilst the remainder of the first season might be presumed to still be Georgia in context), as the seasons progressed, the actual Georgia link seemed to be blurred to just suggest that Hazzard is "somewhere in the deep South", with few if any points relating to Atlanta, and at most occasional vague references to "Capital City". One thing that has often intrigued me, is the "Tri-Counties" status regarding Hazzard. It is referenced in a few episodes, (obviously s4's "Miss Tri-Counties" even has it in the title!) although never really delved into in any detail. On one of the DVD extras, creator Gy Waldron comments on his conceiving of the series, that "three counties (I think, from memory, unless it was States?) had gone to war, and the loser got Hazzard". This seems to be an early concept for the premise of the show that was never really played upon, although in several episodes, Bosses of adjoining counties showed interest in possessing Hazzard or parts of it (slightly going against "the loser got Hazzard" comment by Waldron). I wonder if the three Bosses seen in S5's "The Hazzardgate Tape" are part of this? (Or indeed the boss seen in "Miss Tri-Counties")

A shot of Jess(i)e with his misspelled name from "Welcome Back, Bo 'n' Luke" was used in one of the later U.K. Dukes annuals (where stills from episodes were used to illustrate stories), and it stood out to me even back then, long before I had started collecting and trading episodes on VHS. I've always liked s2's "Witness for the Persecution" too. I think I'm correct in that on it's original broadcast it was a 'very special episode' (in that it had heavier promotion and possibly in a different time-slot), and was a first in that it was the first time that the Dukes had actually assisted Boss Hogg (they had saved him at the end of "Grannie Annie", which was broadcast previously but produced after this episode, and it wasn't the main thrust of that story). The overall concept of the episode was recycled for the s5 episode "The Hazzardgate Tape". That might be a Coy and Vance episode, but is a very special episode to me: After the Dukes had finished here in the UK and I didn't yet have any episodes on VHS (what ones I had recorded my father had long since taped over!) I found an audio tape recording of this episode my father had made to listen to prior to us buying a video recorder. For a few years, this was my only 'complete' Dukes story in any form, and I listed to that cassette over... and over... and over! I know every single word of that damned episode! (It's actually one of the better s5 episodes IMO).

Great work as always, Hoss. Hoping my memory is holding up well now - I recall the interior shots seeming to be a Charger, but as I don't have regular TV / DVD access nowadays, I'm going by pure memory. Shoulda known there'd already be a thread on Jessie's mis-spelled name the forums are so big that I'm still slowly wading my way through. When back at "home home" recently I did watch s4's "Shine on Hazzard Moon" and spotted a couple of little interesting points. In one sequence, when Bo and Luke, accused of stealing the orphanage money, come running out of the Boar's Nest chased by Rosco and Cletus, and take off in the General (which is facing the Boar's Nest wall), John seems to get the car in the wrong gear - for a moment the car bolts forward, before John gets it in reverse and backs away from the building. A few minutes prior to that, when Boss is trying to get Jesse to brew up a batch of 'shine, Denver Pyle possibly fluffs his line - he says "...I made my promise to the United States Federal US of A Government" that he wouldn't make shine. Not sure if this was a goof or not - it might have been in the script, but Denver seems to stumble midway through the line as if he's realised what he said. Or maybe he just got carried away with the line and embellished it. Either way it was a fun moment that still works so it was left in. Another fun-to-spot thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is in the second season opener, "Days of Shine and Roses", when a General Lee jump goes awry. Racing cross country to catch up with Jesse and Boss, the Duke boys jump the General - and it hits the side of a tree. The camera cuts to ?another landing? and it continues on it's way, but it's very evident when watching it, I remember laughing out loud when seeing it as a boy.