Capt_Redneck Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I read this article this morning when I went to get. It was on the front cover , almost a small headline with a pic of JS. This is not looking good for the movie as it is compared to "Showgirls" in the article....http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/331043p-282537c.htmlNew York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com Let's talk trash By HENRY CABOT BECK Sunday, July 24th, 2005 Hazzard County, Ga., is a mythical American place where the women are beautiful, the cops are dumb, and there's no creek so wide that a good muscle car can't jump it."The Dukes of Hazzard," opening Aug. 5, is the big-screen version of the CBS 1979-'85 TV series. Both are a distillation of all those high-octane Li'l Abner movies set in the rural South in the '70s, many of them starring Burt Reynolds, who has a key role alongside Jessica Simpson, Seann William Scott and Johnny Knoxville in the new movie.These backroad favorites are just a small group in the bold and brazen trash movie category, which has entertained (and appalled) audiences over the years - some because the filmmakers knew their movies were awful, and many others because they obviously didn't.The modern age of the trash movie probably started with the overwrought adaptations of Harold Robbins novels like "The Carpetbaggers" (1964), a fictionalized take on the life of Howard Hughes, and "Where Love Has Gone" (1964), a bodice-ripper that pitted Susan Hayward against Bette Davis, both on and off the screen. There was no clear winner.A couple of years later, Robbins had a new competitor in the trash novel marketplace: Jacqueline Susann, whose "Valley of the Dolls" set book racks afire. The story of a group of women and their struggles with sex, drugs and show business became a film in 1967. Starring Patty Duke and Barbara Parkins, it set a new standard for squalid spectacle. It's fair to say that "Desperate Housewives," not to mention other primetime soaps, like "Dallas" and "Dynasty," owe a huge debt to Robbins and Susann.The '70s was trash's golden decade. Moviegoers could feast on Blaxploitation films, women-in-prison pictures like Jonathan Demme's "Caged Heat" (1974), classic horror films like "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (1974) and "Halloween" (1978), and kung-fu flicks popularized by Bruce Lee.But it was movies that pretended to be serious dramas, often with major stars, that provided the most fun at their own expense. "Caligula" (1979), starring distinguished British actors like Peter O'Toole, John Gielgud, Helen Mirren and Malcolm McDowell, was an unbearably awful exercise in sadism and explicit sex. It was put together by Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione at the end of a decade of rampant self-indulgence. What could screenwriter Gore Vidal have been thinking of?In 1982's "Q," Michael Moriarty played a lowlife junkie and bebop pianist who discovers the secret nest of a lethal Aztec monster while hiding out from bad guys in the top of the Chrysler building. If there were Oscars awarded for great over-the-top acting in cheesy horror movies, Moriarty would have taken one home that year.Speaking of awards, Pia Zadora took home a Golden Globe for her acting in the turgid, incestuous drama "Butterfly" (1982) and then followed it with the showbiz b****fest "The Lonely Lady" (1983)."Mommie Dearest" (1981), Faye Dunaway's infamous attempt to portray legendary movie star Joan Crawford as a sadist, netted six out of a possible 11 Razzies, the awards handed out for the worst movies of the year.That might have been a record were it not for "Showgirls" (1995), the supremely tacky story of a couple of aspiring Las Vegas dancers played by Gina Gershon and Elizabeth Berkley. That movie, which instantly became a bad-taste classic, set an all time Razzie award record with 13 nominations and seven wins. "Exit to Eden" (1994), which must still make Dana Delany blush, was almost as tawdry and not half as funny. "Striptease" (1996), starring Demi Moore at her most braless and Burt Reynolds at his lewdest, was another milestone in vulgarity; If Moore had any qualms about stripping on screen, her record $12 million salary must have eased them.Gleefully trashy movies shouldn't be dismissed as the bottom of cinema's, well, trash heap. Highly regarded directors such as Quentin Tarantino and John Waters have taken inspiration from them. And we bet there's more than a few highbrow critics who've dutifully sat through an art-house snore wishing they could sneak into a "Showgirls" or a "Dukes of Hazzard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Redneck Posted July 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I read this article this morning when I went to get. It was on the front cover , almost a small headline with a pic of JS. This is not looking good for the movie as it is compared to "Showgirls" in the article....http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/331043p-282537c.htmlNew York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com Let's talk trash By HENRY CABOT BECK Sunday, July 24th, 2005 Hazzard County, Ga., is a mythical American place where the women are beautiful, the cops are dumb, and there's no creek so wide that a good muscle car can't jump it."The Dukes of Hazzard," opening Aug. 5, is the big-screen version of the CBS 1979-'85 TV series. Both are a distillation of all those high-octane Li'l Abner movies set in the rural South in the '70s, many of them starring Burt Reynolds, who has a key role alongside Jessica Simpson, Seann William Scott and Johnny Knoxville in the new movie.These backroad favorites are just a small group in the bold and brazen trash movie category, which has entertained (and appalled) audiences over the years - some because the filmmakers knew their movies were awful, and many others because they obviously didn't.The modern age of the trash movie probably started with the overwrought adaptations of Harold Robbins novels like "The Carpetbaggers" (1964), a fictionalized take on the life of Howard Hughes, and "Where Love Has Gone" (1964), a bodice-ripper that pitted Susan Hayward against Bette Davis, both on and off the screen. There was no clear winner.A couple of years later, Robbins had a new competitor in the trash novel marketplace: Jacqueline Susann, whose "Valley of the Dolls" set book racks afire. The story of a group of women and their struggles with sex, drugs and show business became a film in 1967. Starring Patty Duke and Barbara Parkins, it set a new standard for squalid spectacle. It's fair to say that "Desperate Housewives," not to mention other primetime soaps, like "Dallas" and "Dynasty," owe a huge debt to Robbins and Susann.The '70s was trash's golden decade. Moviegoers could feast on Blaxploitation films, women-in-prison pictures like Jonathan Demme's "Caged Heat" (1974), classic horror films like "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (1974) and "Halloween" (1978), and kung-fu flicks popularized by Bruce Lee.But it was movies that pretended to be serious dramas, often with major stars, that provided the most fun at their own expense. "Caligula" (1979), starring distinguished British actors like Peter O'Toole, John Gielgud, Helen Mirren and Malcolm McDowell, was an unbearably awful exercise in sadism and explicit sex. It was put together by Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione at the end of a decade of rampant self-indulgence. What could screenwriter Gore Vidal have been thinking of?In 1982's "Q," Michael Moriarty played a lowlife junkie and bebop pianist who discovers the secret nest of a lethal Aztec monster while hiding out from bad guys in the top of the Chrysler building. If there were Oscars awarded for great over-the-top acting in cheesy horror movies, Moriarty would have taken one home that year.Speaking of awards, Pia Zadora took home a Golden Globe for her acting in the turgid, incestuous drama "Butterfly" (1982) and then followed it with the showbiz b****fest "The Lonely Lady" (1983)."Mommie Dearest" (1981), Faye Dunaway's infamous attempt to portray legendary movie star Joan Crawford as a sadist, netted six out of a possible 11 Razzies, the awards handed out for the worst movies of the year.That might have been a record were it not for "Showgirls" (1995), the supremely tacky story of a couple of aspiring Las Vegas dancers played by Gina Gershon and Elizabeth Berkley. That movie, which instantly became a bad-taste classic, set an all time Razzie award record with 13 nominations and seven wins. "Exit to Eden" (1994), which must still make Dana Delany blush, was almost as tawdry and not half as funny. "Striptease" (1996), starring Demi Moore at her most braless and Burt Reynolds at his lewdest, was another milestone in vulgarity; If Moore had any qualms about stripping on screen, her record $12 million salary must have eased them.Gleefully trashy movies shouldn't be dismissed as the bottom of cinema's, well, trash heap. Highly regarded directors such as Quentin Tarantino and John Waters have taken inspiration from them. And we bet there's more than a few highbrow critics who've dutifully sat through an art-house snore wishing they could sneak into a "Showgirls" or a "Dukes of Hazzard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Bold Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I get the feeling this article would have been the same if the movie hadn't been horribly miscast, badly written, and reduced to a drug-pushing propaganda flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Bold Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I get the feeling this article would have been the same if the movie hadn't been horribly miscast, badly written, and reduced to a drug-pushing propaganda flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divia Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Oh my.I'd be interested in what other reviewers have to say. I guess that will come soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divia Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Oh my.I'd be interested in what other reviewers have to say. I guess that will come soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff78 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I'm not going to listen to this one because the guy did not even really review the movie. He just started talking about how trashy these other films were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff78 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I'm not going to listen to this one because the guy did not even really review the movie. He just started talking about how trashy these other films were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I ain't taking nothing into account UNTIL everybody has the opportunity to actually see the movie and judge for themselves. Since when have we ever listened to movie critics? Anyone remember Siskel & Ebert on TV? We'd watch it just to hear them argue between themselves. Usually we'd go to see a movie just because they said it was bad. So why let some "No Name" from New York deter me from seeing something I was a part of or something I grew up with. Not gonna do it. Again, it just makes me want to see it more. And we'll all be standing in line August 5th and rushing for the front rows.With all that's in the movie (General Lee, bikinis, Wonder Woman, bikinis, fast cars, bikinis, stunts...etc), no doubt about it...I'm going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I ain't taking nothing into account UNTIL everybody has the opportunity to actually see the movie and judge for themselves. Since when have we ever listened to movie critics? Anyone remember Siskel & Ebert on TV? We'd watch it just to hear them argue between themselves. Usually we'd go to see a movie just because they said it was bad. So why let some "No Name" from New York deter me from seeing something I was a part of or something I grew up with. Not gonna do it. Again, it just makes me want to see it more. And we'll all be standing in line August 5th and rushing for the front rows.With all that's in the movie (General Lee, bikinis, Wonder Woman, bikinis, fast cars, bikinis, stunts...etc), no doubt about it...I'm going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tig700 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Just something for some people who are intrested in seeing the movie. The orginal series, when it started back in the 70's, got horrible reviews and the big wigs HATED the show. Needless to say we are still talking about and loving the saw that is The Dukes of Hazzard 30 years later!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tig700 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Just something for some people who are intrested in seeing the movie. The orginal series, when it started back in the 70's, got horrible reviews and the big wigs HATED the show. Needless to say we are still talking about and loving the saw that is The Dukes of Hazzard 30 years later!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelerF150 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Whoever the jackass was that wrote that article can kiss my a$$. He's obviously one of those idiots that actually believes making movies is a serious art form. Movies are for entertainment purposes first. I'm sure he'd be much happier if one to the Duke boys was gay and uncle Jesse was an abusive alcoholic seeing as how those are the types of movies people like that seem to like. I agree with Dale that they would probably be saying the same thing about this movie no matter what the plot and no matter who was in the cast. If you can't apprieciate all genre's of movies then you shouldn't be a movie critic. Stick to broadway with your artsy-fartsy musicals about people with who dress up like cats or those in which every character has AIDS or something. Let people who actually like going to movies and escaping for 90 to 120 minutes deal with the movies that have fast cars, hot women, and an occasional dirty joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelerF150 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Whoever the jackass was that wrote that article can kiss my a$$. He's obviously one of those idiots that actually believes making movies is a serious art form. Movies are for entertainment purposes first. I'm sure he'd be much happier if one to the Duke boys was gay and uncle Jesse was an abusive alcoholic seeing as how those are the types of movies people like that seem to like. I agree with Dale that they would probably be saying the same thing about this movie no matter what the plot and no matter who was in the cast. If you can't apprieciate all genre's of movies then you shouldn't be a movie critic. Stick to broadway with your artsy-fartsy musicals about people with who dress up like cats or those in which every character has AIDS or something. Let people who actually like going to movies and escaping for 90 to 120 minutes deal with the movies that have fast cars, hot women, and an occasional dirty joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Redneck Posted July 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Like I said , the worst part was that it was on the FRONT page promoting the stupid article along with a pic of JS ....The stupid writer didn't even see the movie yet but has it stereotyped already. I think that is total BS..Yeah , I am pretty upset that a newspapeer that I like (mainly for the hockey coverage and it's sports section) let an article like that be published.......I'm gone Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Redneck Posted July 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Like I said , the worst part was that it was on the FRONT page promoting the stupid article along with a pic of JS ....The stupid writer didn't even see the movie yet but has it stereotyped already. I think that is total BS..Yeah , I am pretty upset that a newspapeer that I like (mainly for the hockey coverage and it's sports section) let an article like that be published.......I'm gone Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukesran1 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I agree he shouldn't talk bad about something he has seen yet but on the 2nd of Aug i'll let you know it he right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukesran1 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I agree he shouldn't talk bad about something he has seen yet but on the 2nd of Aug i'll let you know it he right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryAnne Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Like I said , the worst part was that it was on the FRONT page promoting the stupid article along with a pic of JS ....I'm assuming when you say JS you mean Jessica Simpson and not John Schneider. LOL. Just clarifying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryAnne Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Like I said , the worst part was that it was on the FRONT page promoting the stupid article along with a pic of JS ....I'm assuming when you say JS you mean Jessica Simpson and not John Schneider. LOL. Just clarifying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Critics opinions dont mean dick.its how THEY felt about the flicks, there is No possible way that they can represent the entire globe to say something sucks. my advice, read what the over paid under worked dumbasses have to say then discard it. were the only judges here, were the ones who decides what sucks and what doesnt. 8) im gone.-Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Critics opinions dont mean dick.its how THEY felt about the flicks, there is No possible way that they can represent the entire globe to say something sucks. my advice, read what the over paid under worked dumbasses have to say then discard it. were the only judges here, were the ones who decides what sucks and what doesnt. 8) im gone.-Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hellraiser Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 usually when a critic, damns a movie or an album, it means that the majority of the people will like it. And since when did the majority of americans become tofu farting wussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hellraiser Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 usually when a critic, damns a movie or an album, it means that the majority of the people will like it. And since when did the majority of americans become tofu farting wussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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