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As I said, I didn't even know at the time why he was calling Kyle an idiot for. Just heard that part on the radio of him calling Kyle and idiot (atl east I took it to be him since they were showing his car while playing it) then his crew cheif calming him do wn. Idiot must have been a popular word in Las Vegas. Guess in the Nationwide Series Havick's crew messed up (Don't know how) but he was calling his own crew idiots. But then ended up winning the race anyway. As I said, just surprised me coming from Edwards.