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Oh don't worry I ramble on and on as well. Plus I enjoy reading all that you have to say. You are very knowledgeable about NASCAR. Well I took it as official that it was due to Carl's accident, but I bet you are right about it. It probably shook them up a lot...as it did for Carl and all the other people that was there at the track that day. I am glad to hear your brother and his friends were OK especially sitting there. Everyone was very lucky that it wasn't worse than what it was. It was surprising to me to see that fence hold his car as it seemed to do. Especially taking in the weight of the car plus the velocity it took to send hte car up there as fast as he was going and all that. Very lucky that it wasn't worse.