ok thank you guys, i'll try to figure out how to get some pictures up later. Ok my car was originally copper and then right over that it was sprayed "single stage orange" no primer or clear coat and was not jambed, they also didn't take off the wheel well trim they sprayed over that too and there taping wasn't great cause there is a tap line and orange on the windshield trim and in other places. there is also over spray in the door jamb where some got threw between the quarter and door. so what i'm thinking is, who ever painted it probably didn't know how to prep the car or there plan was a really quick job. there is 2 more layers of paint over that, blue one and then a primer one, lol this car has been a few different collars so far in it's life.